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Farrakhan Warns of Armageddon if US Retaliates

Miscellaneous News Keywords: FARRAKHAN, TERRORISM, TRAITOR
Source: CNSnews.com
Published: Sept. 17, 2001 Author: Marc Morano
Posted on 09/17/2001 06:26:26 PDT by Temple Drake

CNSNews.com) - Minister Louis Farrakhan has warned President Bush that declaring war on terrorism could "trigger the war that would end all wars, the war of Armageddon."

Farrakhan is the leader of the black Muslim separatist movement Nation of Islam and the architect of the 1995 Million Man March in Washington, D.C.

In a speech Sunday at a Chicago mosque, Farrakhan implied that U.S. foreign policy is to blame for last weeks terrorist attacks on Washington and New York. He called on American officials to summon "the courage to look at the foreign policy" and asked if the policies have "produced this danger and hatred toward America."

He described the events of last week as a "dark hour in American and world history." He defended the Palestinians celebrating in the streets after the terrorist attacks because they have "sustained injustice since 1948," which refers to the year Israel became a state.

"They dance in the streets not because they have no feeling for American life, they dance because they wanted America to feel what they feel."

According to Farrakhan, the terrorists that struck America are the product of "despair and hopelessness."

"This is what causes children to strap themselves with bombs. They care nothing for their lives. They want others to feel the pain of what they live with everyday."

He then accused the American government and media of unfairness towards Muslims. He noted that convicted Oklahoma City Bomber Timothy McVeigh professed to be a Christian, yet the U.S. did not fear all Christians.

"Even though his crime was the most horrific committed up until that time, no one said Christian Timothy McViegh, they just said Timothy McVeigh," he noted. He called McVeigh's actions "un-Christian like" and he declared the attacks last week on the US to be "un-Muslim like."

He said Muslims throughout the world have no quarrel with the citizens of America, only it's foreign policy. He believes these are policies "that the American people know nothing about."

"A better foreign policy of America would defeat terrorism forever in the world," he declared.


He defended the Palestinians celebrating in the streets after the terrorist attacks because they have "sustained injustice since 1948," which refers to the year Israel became a state.
I am sure the rest of you will know better than I how to characterize these remarks.

1 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:26:26 PDT by Temple Drake
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To: Temple Drake

SHUDDUP AND SIT DOWN! Calipso Louie

2 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:30:30 PDT by CHIEF negotiator
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To: Temple Drake

Louis Eugene Walcott is a pimp.

3 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:31:11 PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Temple Drake

So has anyone looked into the "Nation of Islam" for possible terrorist ties? They're a nationwide, I suspect wealthy organization that could be used for a front. And they sure as hell aren't pro American.

4 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:31:17 PDT by nofriendofbills
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To: CHIEF negotiator

Thank you. Beat me to it.

5 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:31:24 PDT by Roebucks
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To: Temple Drake

Shoot the murderers abroad,
Hang the traitors at home.

Got rope?

6 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:31:29 PDT by American Soldier
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To: Temple Drake

The anti-semite rears his ugly head again. Apparently he thinks this war is about Palestine and Israel - rather than specific acts of terrorism. This man is dangerous and sick.

7 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:31:51 PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Temple Drake

He defended the Palestinians celebrating in the streets after the terrorist attacks...

Is Louie threatening us?

8 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:32:18 PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Temple Drake

"I don't have no quarrel with no Viet Cong"--Muhammad Ali 1968

Farrakhan's remarks are clearly treasonous, seditious and, IMO, hate speech to boot. There are laws governing so-called "freedom of speech"...

9 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:33:03 PDT by meandog
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To: Temple Drake

This just in. Farrakan to co-anchor with Jennings on ABC.

. /sarcasm

10 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:33:25 PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Temple Drake

Minister Louis Farrakhan has warned President Bush that declaring war on terrorism could "trigger the war that would end all wars, the war of Armageddon."

Isn't that the same thing Saddam Hussein said back in 1991? Something about "The Mother of all battles?"

11 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:35:02 PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Diogenesis

they'd probably treat him more respectfully than they ever have President Bush.

12 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:35:28 PDT by Temple Drake
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To: Temple Drake

Farrakhan is the leader of the black Muslim separatist movement Nation of Islam and the architect of the 1995 Million Man March in Washington, D.C

I wonder if Louie would be interested in starting his new nation in Afghanistan. I hear real estate there is a real bargin.

13 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:37:05 PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Temple Drake

I've been waiting to get Mullah Looey's input. Is this statement enough to get a search warrant to check the inventory of his amory?

14 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:37:51 PDT by putupon
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To: aculeus

Domestic Guardianista alert.

15 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:37:52 PDT by dighton
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To: meandog

This b*****d should be arrested for aiding the enemy. And, oops, be sure to watch he doesn't bump his pointy little head putting him in the cruiser.

16 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:37:52 PDT by Peach
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To: Temple Drake

Kick this traitor out of the country.

17 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:38:03 PDT by abigail2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think it's good that evil demagogues like Calypso Louie spew their hate for America at a time like this. It just marginalizes their cause even further, renders them even more ineffective than they already are. ROTFL!!!

18 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:38:32 PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: Temple Drake

the terrorists that struck America are the product of "despair and hopelessness."

Is he talking about the terrorist that was boozing it up and partying down at the nudie bar or OBL who has hundreds of millions of dollars? Calypso Louie is an anti-American Muslim who merits an investigation.

19 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:38:37 PDT by Movemout
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To: Temple Drake

the terrorists that struck America are the product of "despair and hopelessness."

They were trained pilots. They could get could jobs. At least the Mexicans would just send the money home. These terrorists were middle-class. I didn't see any "despair and hopelessness" in the way they were living.

Farrakhan should be deported.

20 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:38:46 PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Temple Drake

This is a traitor who needs to be hung and quartered. His masque needs to be burned .

21 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:39:13 PDT by imperator2
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To: Temple Drake

Well we've heard from Calypso Louie.

Now how about Al Sharpon (he's from NYC, no?)

And wattabout Charlie Rangel (he's a Congressman from NYC, no?)

What's this minister from Chicago trying to outdo the guys from NYC? WAit a minute, Jesse Jackson IS from Chicago. Whats Jesse have to say? The silence is deafening.

22 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:40:35 PDT by spald
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To: Temple Drake

Guess this means Jesse Jackson will show up on the tube next. Excuse me, I have to go to my doctors and install a permanent air sickness bag.

23 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:40:52 PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: VA Advogado

He'd never move there....might get his patent leather shoes dusty.

24 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:41:30 PDT by CHIEF negotiator
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To: Temple Drake

IMHO the Nation of Islam needs looking after in a big way.

25 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:42:10 PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: Temple Drake

The United States should open the doors wide, outwardly, so that all those Americans that are so unhappy with our way of life, may pass freely with all their worldly possessions, into any land of their choice.

26 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:42:56 PDT by cynicom
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To: Temple Drake

I wonder how many Muslims died the the WTC? How many black people? Like louie really cares.

If he was on fire I wouldn't urinate on him to put him out.

I wonder when's JJ's going to weigh in?

Mustard

27 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:44:24 PDT by Mustard
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To: Temple Drake

This should be on the cover of every newspaper in the Country. We need to know where these organizations stand.

29 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:44:50 PDT by Hildy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Louis Eugene Walcott is a pimp.

Didn't he almost beat Joe Louis?

30 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:44:52 PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Temple Drake

From dust to dust.

Dust 'em.

31 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:45:11 PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: RooRoobird14

Once again, another Muslim representative who spends entirely too much time trying (as if it was possible) to explain why these heinous acts were committed against the U.S., rather than condemning the acts in the strongest possible terms and distancing themselves from these radical, barbaric fanatics...

32 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:46:01 PDT by Ethrane
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To: Temple Drake

I was waiting for this.Look for more of the same from black leaders. I have a feeling blacks will not fight this war. They will be anti-bush and anti america.

33 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:47:15 PDT by winodog
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To: Temple Drake

Send him packing. Get out of the US Farajerk.

34 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:47:42 PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Temple Drake

"They dance in the streets not because they have no feeling for American life, they dance because they wanted America to feel what they feel."

Are they just as interested in feeling the pain of the WTC victims?

35 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:48:19 PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: nofriendofbills

You got that right, he's probably shaking in his boots because he's on the list as well as the other Muslim Terrorists abroad. Farrakhan pick a side scumbag, I personally hope you pick the other side I'd love to see your bigoted @ss sent to your brothers in the Middle East!

36 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:51:08 PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Diogenesis

Sarcastic? Yes. Far Fetched? No. Send both to Canada or the Middle East!

37 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:52:38 PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Temple Drake

How many black Americans have to die before Louie finds something worth condemning in Muslim terrorists?

Starting from the Beirut truck bomb in 1982 to the Berlin disco bombing in 1986, to Pan Am 103 in 1988, to the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, to the Khobar Towers truck bomb in 1996, to the embassy bombings in 1998, to Egyptair 110 in 1999, to last Tuesday--the number of African Americans killed by Muslim extremists is easily in the hundreds.

For an alleged "leader" of black Americans not to condemn their murder tells you all you need to know about this piece of garbage's agenda.

38 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:52:52 PDT by denydenydeny
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To: anniegetyourgun

Apparently he thinks this war is about Palestine and Israel - rather than specific acts of terrorism.

Uh, whether we like it or not, the fact remains that this war IS about Palestine and Israel, at least in part, and our support of Israel.

39 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:53:39 PDT by Mean Maryjean
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To: Temple Drake

A better foreign policy of America would defeat terrorism forever in the world.

He does have a point.  We are now reaping the results of Mr. Clinton's follies in the arena of foreign relations.

40 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:53:39 PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Temple Drake

F Farrakhan

41 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:54:34 PDT by Blowtorch
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To: American Soldier

Exactly! If we run out of rope, piano wire will have to suffice.

42 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:55:22 PDT by johnny7
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To: Temple Drake

What Farrakhan and all liberals have to say right now is irrelevant. Their anti-American bile is well known; we don't need to hear a bunch of backpedaling. What we need to do, however, is investigate his organization to see if they've been supplying aid and comfort to the enemy.

43 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:56:31 PDT by randog
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

A better foreign policy of America would defeat terrorism forever in the world.

We are about to witness a better "foreign policy" ... in Afghanistan.

44 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:58:38 PDT by Marauder
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To: spald

I can hear it now "I can feel the pain of my Muslim brothers, it is similar to the pain of the African American people. We must have Slave Reparations." One tracked mind Jesse, he's not interested unless personal gain is involved.

45 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:00:19 PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Temple Drake

Calypso Louie needs to be on the next plane out of this country.

46 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:01:16 PDT by diotima
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To: Temple Drake

The date of the attack : 9/11 - 9+1+1=11
September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2+5+4=11
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
119 Is the area code to Iraq/Iran 1+1+9=11
Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11
The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
State of New York - The 11th State added to the union
New York City - 11 letters
Afghanistan - 11 letters
The Pentagon - 11 letters
Ramzi Yousef - 11 letters (CONVICTED OR ORCHESTRATING THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN 1993)
Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9+2=11
Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6+5=11

47 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:01:38 PDT by AppyPappy
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To: anniegetyourgun

"Apparently he thinks this war is about Palestine and Israel - rather than specific acts of terrorism"

Though it may not be able to be directly linked, I believe it has alot to do with the bombing and the U.S. being alley to Israel. These people are of the same mindset. They are animals.

48 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:01:47 PDT by hope
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To: stainlessbanner

Is Louie threatening us?***

I don't think so. He's just repeating what many people believe, but with a bullhorn. Certainly doesn't help at all.

49 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:04:37 PDT by The Documentary Lady
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To: winodog

I was waiting for this.Look for more of the same from black leaders. I have a feeling blacks will not fight this war. They will be anti-bush and anti america.

33 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:47:15 PDT by winodog

Only the pimps, panderers, extortionists; not the good ones. Good point, however.

50 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:06:08 PDT by katze
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To: AppyPappy

Noooooooooooo! Numerhellology!

51 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:06:29 PDT by gjenkins
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To: winodog

You may be right Dog but from the film footage I've watched, their were quite a few blacks killed and maimed in the WTC as well as whites. Now the Muslim blacks are a different story, but most Blacks are good Christians folks to. I hope you are wrong, only time will tell.

52 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:08:37 PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: AppyPappy

LOL!

Math Made Easy
- by Calypso Louie

53 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:08:53 PDT by CHIEF negotiator
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To: Mean Maryjean

Uh, whether we like it or not, the fact remains that this war IS about Palestine and Israel, at least in part, and our support of Israel.

39 Posted on 09/17/2001 06:53:39 PDT by Mean Maryjean

Don't start. If you're interested in Rivero's point of view, go to newsgroups, alt.conspiracy and alt.politics. Someone just asked him if he hates this country so much, why not leave.

54 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:08:56 PDT by katze
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To: winodog

I have a feeling blacks will not fight this war.

You know, as a serviceman, it pisses me off for you to say that. Guys that I serve with, regardless of race or creed want in. Get a clue, they are Americans, same as you and I.

Scumbags come in all colors

55 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:11:04 PDT by Razwan
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To: Temple Drake

Well, this is a time for choosing, and he's just chosen the wrong side.

Since he's an American citizen, we can't just deport him (though a one way flight to Mecca with a 25,000 foot deplaning sans parachute sure sounds attractive), but we can charge him with giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Put him in jail incommunicado until the war is over, apologize profusely (maybe) and get on with business.

56 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:12:09 PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Mean Maryjean

You are only partially right. The real reason for the hatred that The Middle East Muslims hold against the U.S. is that for thousands of years the Arab Muslims were the wheel of power and then a Christian Country in the West evolved & took the power away from these Dynasties. Well they want the Power back, this is the Result. The only reason you are partially right is the fact that we support Israel & Israel stands for the same philosphy as the West stands for . It's all about Money & power, the same as all Wars are fought over.

57 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:13:57 PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Temple Drake

---this article, and the media in general, always leaves out that farrakhan is also the leader of the Fruits of Islam private army. Many thousands of members nationwide. If it was a white guy private army they would be defecating in their drawers reporting it. They are a direct threat, they could very well decide to support bin laden or other actions should push come to shove. Their sympathies are certainly there, now you have to wonder about their actions in the future. I think it would be safge to assume that they could act, and decisively, if they chose to at some point.

I'll repeat something I'll keep saying, it is prudent to remove yourself-anyone-from the mega-cities at this point. NYC and the wtc was just the first attack, that more are coming is a gimmee. Besides the fruits of islam, you have middle eastern and red chinese "students" and scientists inside of major research areas, and they have access to critical governmental and contracted private corporation infrastructure sites. This is a real and sober threat at this point. Think about them having access to the electrical systems, or the water supplies, or inside the telecommunications areas. "Stuff" could happen.

58 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:15:34 PDT by zog
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To: Temple Drake

re: #1 In other words Hitler was right. There should be no Jews in the world Allah has spoken!!

59 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:16:28 PDT by baddog1
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To: Temple Drake

This is civil war threat and sedition. Those people should go to jail. NOW!

60 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:19:41 PDT by lavaroise
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To: Mean Maryjean

The reason the US has been targeted by these Muslim terrorists is not because of its support for Israel, as some apologists for the Arabs claim. The truth is the opposite. The ferocity of Arab and fundamentalist Muslim hatred for Israel stems to no small degree from Israel's being identified as the spearhead of renewed Western imperialism, modernism, and irreligious democracy in the very heartland of the Muslim Arab world.

61 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:20:41 PDT by anapikoros
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To: Temple Drake

Since the aim of the Muslim extremists is to destroy the modern world anyway, what do we have to lose? If we do nothing, they will win for sure, if we fight, I like our odds.

62 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:20:42 PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Temple Drake

"the Palestinians"

Would a Palestinian state be any different than any other two-bit Arab dictatorship in that part of the world? Any freer, any more prosperous? The suffering of the Palestinians is largely self-imposed.

63 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:23:42 PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: AppyPappy

Nostradamus said all that right. We should have seen this coming. How come no one can figure out what Nostradamus is talking about till after it happens.

64 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:23:54 PDT by baddog1
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To: Temple Drake

Maybe he should do his so-called "preaching" and "ministering" in Kabul.

65 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:25:33 PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Temple Drake

"the product of despair and hopelessness"

I would also suffer from despair and hopelessness if I lived under leaders like the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

66 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:28:54 PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Mean Maryjean

What's wrong about supporting Israel's right to exist?

Should terrorists be allowed to dictate our foreign policy?

67 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:31:55 PDT by Gumption
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To: anapikoros

You are right. This is about more than the plight of the Palestinians, which is just kind of a front for the larger issue. The larger issue is that the Muslim extremists are in revolt against the entire modern world: Democracy, secularism, technology, modern education, women's liberation, pop culture, modern art and music, liberal Christianity, etc. This is why some traditionalist Christian conservatives - Joe Sobran comes to mind - feel a certain affinity for the Muslim cause, if not for acts of mass terrorism. But make no mistake, if we yield to these people, we will be their slaves.

68 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:39:05 PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: AppyPappy

The date of the attack : 9/11 - 9+1+1=11 September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2+5+4=11 After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year. 119 Is the area code to Iraq/Iran 1+1+9=11 Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11 The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11 State of New York - The 11th State added to the union New York City - 11 letters Afghanistan - 11 letters The Pentagon - 11 letters Ramzi Yousef - 11 letters (CONVICTED OR ORCHESTRATING THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN 1993) Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9+2=11 Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6+5=11

I don't know about all this mumbo-jumbo, but I think 11 nuclear warheads ought to about take care of the problem.

69 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:39:24 PDT by jagfar
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

Since you understand the terrorist mindset so well, can you explain their reasoning behind the previous attack on the WTC?

70 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:39:51 PDT by Gumption
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To: Temple Drake

You have touched on a nerve with me. I have watched many hours of Louis Farrakan (sp?) speeches. He would be more than happy to assist the Ethnic Muslims for a cut of the real estate for form their own Nation. He and Nation of Islam followers are ready for action. In case of all out war against Muslims, beware of the inner city riots and explosions......

168 Posted on 09/14/2001 19:38:31 PDT by EastTexAnn

I wrote this on a thread a few days ago. Took him longer than I expected....

Anyone think the development of gangs is just to hang out together and listen to bad music? They are armed, trained, and brainwashed.

71 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:43:01 PDT by EastTexAnn
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To: Temple Drake

Islam is an evil religion. The founder of Islam, Muhammed, was a very evil man. He was a mass murderer. He was a polygamist. He had 15 wives in his lifetime. He "married" a six year old girl and said that she was one of his favorite wives. He lied, He stole, He plundered. He was totally evil. Islam is evil. Below are some excerpts from an article I posted on Free Republic titled "Muhammad, Islam, and Terrorism" The Ugly Truth about Islam. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba4ad09608b.htm

(Please send this to everyone you know.)

ATTENTION – PLEASE GO TO http://answering-islam.org/Silas/terrorism.htm

THIS IS VERY UGLY. IT WILL MAKE YOU SICK TO YOUR STOMACH.

BELOW ARE A FEW EXCERPTS FROM THE ARTICLE AT http://answering-islam.org/Silas/terrorism.htm ABOUT MUHAMMED THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM.

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We know that there are good and bad in all religions, but this case is different. This event reflects upon the man who started Islam: Islam is built upon Muhammad’s words and deeds. We see here that Muhammad had a woman brutally murdered. She was killed because she spoke out against him, and she was merely a nuisance.

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“....and Umm Qirfa Fatima was taken prisoner. She was a very old women, wife of Malik. Her daughter and Abdullah Masada were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly (Tabari, by putting a rope to her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two.)

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Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare.

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MUHAMMAD’S EARLY TERRORIST ACTS

After moving to Medina, Muhammad began to have conflict with the Jews and pagans in the area. I’ll focus on several incidents, not necessarily in chronological order, that illustrate Muhammad as a terrorist.

The first terrorist incident involves Muhammad’s command to his followers to “kill any Jew that comes under your power”.

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“It is remarkable that tradition attributes Muhammad’s most cruel acts to divine order, namely the siege of Qaynuqa, the murder of Kab, and he attack upon Qurayzah. Allah’s conscience seems to be more elastic than that of his creatures.”..... Ibn Ishaq and al-Waqidi report that the prophet said the morning after the murder (of Kab Ashraf), “Kill any Jew you can lay your hands on.”.

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REVIEW

Here another man was murdered upon Muhammad’s command. This man was 120 years old. He was no physical threat to Muhammad and he did not urge people to commit violent acts against Muhammad or the Muslims. There was no discussion with Jewish leaders, there was no dialogue with Abu Afak; it was just an outright murder of another one of Muhammad’s critics. Abu Afak urged the people who lived in Medina to doubt and leave Muhammad. Abu Afak found that Muhammad’s sayings were strange and dictatorial. He chided the Arabs that put their faith in Muhammad. Muhammad heard of this and viewed the 120 year old man as a threat to his credibility, not to his life. Nowhere does it say that Abu Afak urged his fellow Arabs to attack or harm Muhammad. Yet for speaking his mind, for the benefit of his friends, this man was murdered by Muhammad.

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The bottom line is that Asma b. Marwan was not a legitimate threat to Muhammad. She didn’t scare him, she was not the leader of her tribe, and she had little or no influence. She was little more than a nuisance to him. Yet Muhammad had her murdered, again, in cold, premeditated blood.

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ADDITIONAL OBSERVATIONS

1) What alarms me the most about Islam is its disposition to violence and use of violence as a standard of God’s will.

Umayr is a perfect example of this. Here is a Muslim man, a friend of Muhammad’s, acting upon Muhammad’s request and going into a woman’s home under the cover of night. He comes upon the women, sleeping in her bed with her child, and murders her by plunging a sword through her body.

Afterwards, Muhammad tells the man that he has “helped God and his apostle”. If Allah were really threatened by this woman, I think He could have killed her Himself, don’t you? Does God need men to sneak around in the night and murder sleeping women?

2) What kind of religion is Islam really? Soon after Umayr murdered Asma, he went to her family and mocked them! He was laughing in their faces that he had murdered their mother and that they were powerless to do anything about it!

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Muhammad allowed his followers to even murder members of their own families!

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So, Muhammad blessed one of his men who murdered a one-eyed shepherd while he slept. Another person who didn’t want to follow Muhammad, another murder in Islam’s name. Muhammad’s trail of blood continued to grow.

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Here, Muhammad’s companions went out and attacked people, took some prisoners, then committed some brutal atrocities against their captives. These men were so destitute of basic human values, that they ripped an old women in half by using camels! When one reads of the horrible things the Serbs have done, one is offended. But I wonder how many Muslims know that Muhammad himself did and sanctioned such things. Muhammad was every bit as brutal as the Nazis.

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He had two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle, so he ordered that they should be killed with him.”

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Let’s stop here and examine this paragraph. Muhammad ordered that a man who apostatized, and his two slave girls, be killed. Khatal was ordered to be killed not because he killed his male slave, a Muslim, but because he apostatized. Islamic law does not allow a Muslim man to be put to death for killing a slave. Muhammad also ordered two slave girls to be killed for singing satirical songs about him. They sung satirical songs about Muhammad probably at least a year or more earlier. Now, after Muhammad conquered Mecca, it was his time to pay those slave girls back. These slave girls were not threats to Islam, or to the new Islamic State. They were only slave girls. They were ordered to be executed only because they sang a silly song about Muhammad.

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REVIEW

We see that Muhammad had many people murdered. By request, by command, by implication, Muhammad had many people murdered, many killed while they slept. There were no trials, no judgments, no dialog. If you insulted Muhammad, if you doubted his credibility and if you spoke out, you were murdered. Men and women, young and old, all were killed because of Muhammad’s hatred toward those who spoke out against him.

Here is a summary of the 7 terrorist murders committed upon Muhammad’s requests or efforts:

1) Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish man who was murdered because he was simply a Jew

2) Abu Afak, a 120-year-old man, murdered while he slept

3) Asma Marwan, mother of 5 children, murdered while she slept

4) A slave women, mother of two children, murdered while she slept

5) A one-eyed shepherd, murdered while he slept

6) A very old women, literally ripped in half by Muslims who captured her on a raid.

7) A slave girl, who was murdered because she poked fun at Muhammad.

I will add that there were many more people who suffered a similar fate. I choose not to list them here because of space limitations.

Make no mistake about it: Muhammad was a terrorist. Today’s Muslim terrorists follow his actions. Like prophet, like followers; today’s Muhammadan terrorists commit their acts based upon what Muhammad did.

Many Muslims are peace-loving people and are thoroughly disgusted about the acts of Islamic terrorism. Most Muslims do not know these historical facts about their own prophet. But Muslim terrorists are usually well-educated in Islam. They are pious people. Spiritual leaders. And they do what they do and how they do it following the example of their prophet.

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The order to kill Christians and Jews is in that verse. It is clear that Muhammad ordered his followers to fight those Christians and Jews to convert them or pay the Jizya, and if they don’t convert or pay, do you think that he told the followers to let them go in peace? It is very clear: convert... or pay with submission ... or die.

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Basically, Muhammad had an agreement with a number of Arab tribes. Some were peaceful with him, others disliked him. “Allah” gave Muhammad a “revelation” allowing him to break his word, the “agreement” with the pagan Arabs and attack them after the four sacred months were over.

Once again, Muhammad had gained power, and things changed. Now Muhammad was permitted to lie, i.e., break his agreement, and make war upon the pagans. Muhammad’s circumstances changed - Allah changed again.

Note that in the last quoted paragraph, it is supposed to be God telling the Muslims to go out and kill people. Some of these people had gotten along peacefully with the Muslims. But because they didn’t follow Muhammad, they were going to be attacked.

ISLAMIC TERRORISM UPON MUSLIMS WHO LEAVE ISLAM

Muhammad was not content to conquer by force, or kill those that merely opposed him verbally. Muhammad also taught that Muslims who leave the Islamic faith are to be murdered as well. Here are some quotes from Bukhari’s collection of Hadith. Remember, Bukhari’s Hadith is the second most important writing in Islam, following the Quran.

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Not only did Muhammad teach that Muslims are to murder those that have left Islam, “wherever you find them”, he further taught that a Muslim who commits this type of murder will be doing God’s service and be rewarded!

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Bin Laden was interviewed by a Muslim journalist, and the interview appears in the Jan 11, 1999 issue of Newsweek. Here are some excerpts:

QUESTION: “Why have you asked Muslims to target civilian Americans all over the world? Islam prohibits its followers from killing civilians in war?”

BIN LADEN: “If the Israelis are killing small children in Palestine and the Americans are killing the innocent people in Iraq, and if the majority of the American people support their dissolute president, this means the American people are fighting us and we have the right to target them.

QUESTION: “All Americans?”

BIN LADEN “Muslim scholars have issued a fatwa [a religious order] against any American who pays taxes to his government. He is our target, because he is helping the American war machine against the Muslim nation.

Below is an excerpt from ABC news.

ABCNEWS.com (on Osama bin Laden - edited for length)

His fatwa was clear: Americans must die, within the next few weeks.

U.S. troops will leave Saudi Arabia when Islamic terrorists “send the bodies of American troops and civilians home in wooden boxes and coffins,” Osama Bin Ladin vowed in an exclusive interview with ABC NEWS Correspondent John Miller. “We don’t differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians. They are all targets in this fatwa.”

Bin Ladin recently convened a meeting of fundamentalist extremists and sponsors of terrorism. More than 150 clerics named themselves the “International Islamic Front for the Jihad against Jews and Crusaders,” and issued a variety of fatwas. But Bin Ladin’s is the one that most concerns U.S. security analysts.

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#3) In June 1993 eight Muslims were arrested by the FBI. There were reportedly planning bombings targeting the United Nations headquarters, FBI offices, and the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, as well as several assassinations.

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#5) An arrested Hamas terrorist in Israel told authorities that Hamas leaders in held a workshop in Chicago where Hamas inductees were taught how to make car bombs.

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#6) Last year, a Muslim who converted to Christianity was attacked and his home was firebombed by Muslims in Minnesota.

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#8) Here is another foiled terrorist attempt in America....

Palestinian Guilty in Subway Plot

NEW YORK (AP) - A Palestinian who said he wanted to kill as many Jews “as I could take” was convicted today of plotting to blow up a busy subway station. Gazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer, who faces life in prison, jumped to his feet after the verdict was read and shouted “Allahu Akbar! (God is great)” as he held up the Koran, the Muslim holy book. The federal jury acquitted a second Palestinian, Lafi Khalil, of plotting the suicide-bombing. Last Monday, testifying against his lawyers’ wishes, Abu Mezer said he had planned to “martyr” himself and kill “as many (Jews) as I could take.”

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#9) In Nov., 1989, a Palestinian Muslim and his wife, murdered their own 14 daughter. Their daughter had not lived according to their view of Islam. Finally, the father and mother assaulted the girl. The mother held the girl down while the father stabbed her to death. Unknown to this Muslim family, this man was under investigation by the FBI, and a bug had legally been planted in the house. The entire murder was called on tape. As the girl struggled and begged her mother to help her, the father said in Arabic, “Die, die quickly, die quickly”.

This murder is written about in People magazine, 1/20/92.

#10) Even in America’s military there are Muslims who are charged with aiding the terrorists who have murdered American citizens. The following is from a recent news article:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A former U.S. Army sergeant was indicted Wednesday for allegedly participating in a conspiracy led by Saudi exile Osama bin Laden to kill Americans abroad.

Ali Mohamed, 46, was charged with acting with others including bin Laden’s group al Qaeda to plan the murders of U.S. military personnel stationed in Saudi Arabia and Somalia and last August’s bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania....... Mohamed, a former major in the Egyptian Army, was granted a visa to enter the United States in 1985 and became an American citizen. According to U.S. Army Reserve he enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1986 and was stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C.

The indictment charges that at least as early as 1989, bin Laden and others made efforts to recruit U.S. citizens including Mohamed to travel in the Western world to help al Qaeda carry out operations.

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Fortunately, America is not a hotbed of Islamic terrorism. Not yet anyway. Unfortunately, Muslim terrorists are at work all throughout the world. Violence is part and parcel with Islam. Here is just a small sampling of some of the Islamic terrorist actions that have occurred in the last 15 years.

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FRANCE - Several years ago, Muslim terrorist began bombing innocent French civilians. Here is one article:

TERROR Campaign widens; Bomb in Paris Subway

Chicago, IL., July 25, 1995 --At least four (4)people were killed and another 35 wounded in an afternoon terror attack that took place today in the Paris Saint-Michel underground station, near the Latin quarter. Police officials are investigating and wouldn’t immediately comment, but French Prime Minister Alain Juppe is quoted by the Reuters News service as saying that he believes that “there is a very strong suspicion of a (terrorist) attack”.

These attacks were similar to bombings carried out by Muslim terrorists in France in 1986, in which dozens of people were killed........

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Islamic guerrillas hold captive brides hostage to terror

By Martin Regg Cohn Toronto Star Middle East Bureau

BLIDA, Algeria - In the dead of night, in the name of Islam, four terrorists burst into the

home of 17-year-old Salima Amina Zenagui.

Accusing her of loose morals, the Islamic fundamentalists ordered Zenagui to cover her auburn hair with a hijab head-scarf. Then they abducted her at gunpoint to their underground hideout, where the teenager was forced to marry a terrorist twice her age.

After a religious wedding ceremony, he raped her - with a warning that any resistance would mean certain death. The bleeding didn’t stop for 15 days. The mental torture, and the physical cruelty, continued for another five months. During the long nights and endless days, Zenagui slowly lost her sanity. And the will to live.

Zenagui is one of thousands of young women and teenage girls believed to have been kidnapped by fundamentalist terrorists during Algeria’s five-year Islamic insurgency. Forced into so-called temporary marriages that are a religious license to rape, their screams are soon silenced.

Most of the victims have their throats slit, their bodies dumped in wells like the one discovered last week in Bentalha, just outside Algiers. Police were drawn by the stench of death to the 40-metre-deep well, where they found about 30 badly decomposed corpses of women and girls believed to have been abducted and raped after a massacre in the area a month ago.

Known as “zawaj al mutaa”, or “marriage of pleasure,” the controversial practice is disdained by mainstream Muslims today. It dates from Islam’s early years, when fighters in a holy war helped themselves to single women during periods of hardship or isolation.

Zenagui believes her captors were fundamentalist terrorists from the GIA, who rationalize rape as a way of motivating their men to sacrifice themselves for Islam. Even as they mistreat their captive women, they worship their God. In their hideout, Zenagui watched them pray toward Mecca five times a day. They read the Koran, Islam’s holy book, and often played inspirational cassette tapes about the Prophet Mohammed.

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EGYPT

In Sept 1991, in Imbaba, a district of Cairo, hundreds of Muslims attacked the minority Christians there, burning down a church with a Pastor’s wife inside. Other churches were attacked, and Christians were beaten. The government had to send in 3000 troops to stop the Muslims from continuing to attack the Christians.

During the last 8 years in Egypt, hundreds of Coptic Christians have been murdered by Muslims in Egypt. Even worshippers in church have been sprayed by Muslims welding automatic weapons.

CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- At least 60 people were killed on Monday when unidentified gunmen opened fire at the world famous temple site of Luxor in southern Egypt, according to the interior ministry. The death toll makes it the deadliest attack on tourists in Egypt.

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List of fatal attacks on visitors in Egypt since 1992

Prior to Monday, attacks by Muslim militants had killed 34 international tourists in the past five years. Overall, about 1,100 people have been killed since 1992, when the extremists launched their campaign aimed at ousting President Hosni Mubarak.

NIGERIA

In Oct. 1991, thousands of Muslims attacked Christian churches, businesses, and homes in Kano, Nigeria. Kano is in northern Nigeria, which is predominately Muslim. It was estimated that 300 Christians were murdered by Muslim mobs. Muslims were upset because Christian evangelists had been converting Muslims in the region to Christianity.

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PAKISTAN

When the Muslims in Pakistan found a torn up Quran in a mosque, 30,000 Muslims attacked the only majority Christian town (Shanti Nagar) in Pakistan and destroyed half of it! Churches were burned, businesses were destroyed, and women and girls were raped. The army had to come in to stop the Muslims. A worldwide outcry against the action prompted Pakistan’s Prime Minister Sheriff to help re-build the Christian homes, churches, businesses that were destroyed.

This action was not the work of an organized terrorist group, rather it was a display of real Islam. There was no Bin Laden leading this effort, there was no Hamas or Hezbollah orchestrating the action, it was ordinary Muslims, 30,000 of them, attacking a Christian village, because they thought that some Christian had torn up a Quran.

When Muhammad got offended, he murdered.... today, Muslims get offended, they murder. It is motivated by one and the same evil satanic spirit - the same dark spirit that appeared to Muhammad which caused him to attempt suicide - the same malevolent spirit that then talked him out of killing himself.... it had better plans for him. The same demonic spirit that had him massacre 800 Jewish men and adolescent boys, then enslave their women and children. These Jews had never clashed swords with Muhammad or his men until he attacked them. It had a thirst for blood, and during Muhammad’s last 10 years, the blood flowed.

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HOW DO MOST MUSLIMS LIVING IN AMERICA FIT IN?

Most Muslims are not terrorists. Many of them reject the actions of their Muslim brethren around the world. Unfortunately, since Islam teaches world domination, these moderate Muslims rarely raise their voices in protest. If the Israelis bomb Hezbollah camps in Lebanon, Muslims in New York, Detroit, and Los Angeles will organize a mass demonstration. But getting Muslims to condemn the terrorist actions of their brethren, say of those in Sudan, Egypt, Algeria, Afghanistan, Iraq is like pulling teeth.

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What does the future for Islam in America hold? One thing I am certain of; it holds terrorism. I’ve studied Islamic viewpoints on America. The majority of Muslims today view America as the last great wall that stops Islam. In their mind, America must be destroyed or brought down, by any means necessary. This is what motivated Sheik Rahman to blow up the New York towers.

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Once again I say, not all Muslims in America are terrorists. Many of them are good people. But the seeds of terrorism are planted deep within the theology of Islam. This theology, when free to grow and blossom, shows itself in the actions normal Muslims, in Muslim countries take when they feel that Islam is challenged.

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CONCLUSION

Muhammad was a terrorist. Based upon Muhammad’s actions and teachings, Islam justifies terrorism. Today, Muslims use that justification to attack and murder those who differ from them. Muslim terrorists follow in Muhammad’s footsteps.

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Who then really brought God’s message of His love for mankind? Who really taught peace? Surely, this man Muhammad was not from God. Instead, Muhammad is one of the false prophets Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:11 -

“and many false prophets shall arise and deceive many”.

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There are more than six million Muslims living in the USA today.

Think About It – Thanks, Bob from Michigan.

72 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:43:41 PDT by BobfromMichigan2001 (Anti_immigration_man@yahoo.com)
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To: meandog

"Farrakhan's remarks are clearly treasonous, seditious and, IMO, hate speech to boot"

YES--where are the hate speech police?

I remember a few years ago this failed singer and failed pimp (where do you go when you can't make it as a pimp? Ask Louie) shot his mouth off about Jews belonging to a "gutter religion" or something like that. Not a single hate speech charge, just beating ordinary Americans because we don't "understand" Louie and his cult militia.

Well, we do understand Louie and his cult militia. They are the ones in the gutter. They are part of the problem.

73 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:46:11 PDT by SEA
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To: Razwan

It was not my intent to insult the brave people of all colors who have fought and died for this country. I have the utmost respect for all vets.

What we are about to see is something all together different. The past 8 years have seen a division in this country never seen before.There are many black muslims in this country and they will take their orders from Allah,not the Commander in Chief.Almost all the black muslims are very militant and they are anti gov.They also have a seething hatred of whitey. 90% of blacks voted for dems.Why have the race baiters been so quite?

I truly hope and pray that the country comes together as one but I would bet money on it.

74 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:53:43 PDT by winodog
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To: anapikoros

"The reason the US has been targeted by these Muslim terrorists is not because of its support for Israel, as some apologists for the Arabs claim. The truth is the opposite. The ferocity of Arab and fundamentalist Muslim hatred for Israel stems to no small degree from Israel's being identified as the spearhead of renewed Western imperialism, modernism, and irreligious democracy in the very heartland of the Muslim Arab world."

Yes; well put. This is what I have come to believe very recently. It shines through bin laden's interviews, etc.

75 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:55:31 PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Temple Drake

P.S. to Calypso Louie:

Su*k my Fatwa

76 Posted on 09/17/2001 07:55:40 PDT by SEA
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To: Temple Drake

Bitch slap the Mo-Fo!

OneOfOne

77 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:00:10 PDT by DonnerT
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To: BobfromMichigan2001

Bump

78 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:07:25 PDT by EdReform
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To: Temple Drake

The FBI should be taking a very close look at this traitor's organization. How many cells is he harboring?

79 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:18:40 PDT by austingirl
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To: AppyPappy

 

AppyPappy: Why didn't you add the fact that your post would be #47.

That's right! 4 + 7 = 11.

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80 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:34:53 PDT by UncleSam
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To: winodog

I disagree, I think that this is the beginning of black and whites, or whatever color becomming just Americans, and this major jerk and all the others will be screaming into a hurricane.

81 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:48:43 PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: dighton Temple Drake

Go to your spaceship Louie.

82 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:52:48 PDT by aculeus
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To: Temple Drake

You can find Farrakhan's identical views here on FreeRepublic from the usual anti-Semitic, anti-Israel crowd. Nothing new except that now you all see them for what they are and how far their hate reaches.

83 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:54:31 PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Temple Drake

Bring it on, Louie ... I just spent my tax "rebate" on a new pistol and about $200 worth of assorted ammunition.

84 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:54:36 PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Gumption

Since you understand the terrorist mindset so well, can you explain their reasoning behind the previous attack on the WTC?

I would think that it would require no great understanding to see terrorist objectives.  Firstly, the classical terrorist uses weapons of terror to force their targets to divert precious resources to combat fifth columnists.  Secondly, they reduce their adversary's ability to fight by destroying key resources, and by inducing a paralysis of action.

Added to that, the mid-east terrorist tries to force his target into a well-defined action that would unite the mid-east and alienate the target from the mid-east.  In this case, the U.S. has to move very circumspectly, since any rash act on our part would inflame the very passions we should desire not to.  Very possibly the more moderate factions of the Arab world would be overthrown, then instead of a handful of terrorist mid-eastern nations, we get stuck with nothing but terrorist nations in the mid-east.

Right now, with even Iran condemning the attacks, we have an unparalleled opportunity to see if we can't pull off a diplomatic coup by not reacting in the way that the terrorists expect.

Let us go to the Arabs and ask them for their help in solving this problem.  Let us not use the "big stick" treatment first, but only if the Arabs cannot, or refuse to do so.  Think what would happen if we could make peace with Iran and Iraq and totally isolate the Taliban regime.  How long do you think that they would survive with their support cut off from the Arab world?  From what I understand, the Talibanites are only slightly less vicious than the Khmer Rouge.

Let us not go to war gladly nor hastily.  Let us go (if we must) reluctantly and with sorrow in our hearts that we have to go at all.

85 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:55:02 PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: UncleSam

AppyPappy: Why didn't you add the fact that your post would be #47.

That's right! 4 + 7 = 11.

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Don't forget that 11 x 47 + the number of years Mohammed spent in the desert = the height of the Masonic temple in ZOG, aka, The Washington Monument. ROTFL.

86 Posted on 09/17/2001 08:56:26 PDT by BobfromMichigan2001
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To: Temple Drake

Farrakhan is the leader of the black Muslim separatist movement Nation of Islam

Now here is a Muslim group and leader within who hate America, on these pukes we can vent out frustrations upon.

87 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:01:01 PDT by damian5
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To: Temple Drake

oh so Nation of Islam leader Farra-CON wants the USA to sit back and accept this? Hey, Farra-CON, why don't you vacation in Afghanistan this week?

88 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:01:11 PDT by Bobby777
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To: denydenydeny

How many black Americans have to die before Louie finds something worth condemning in Muslim terrorists?

excellent point ... wake up and smell the Farra-CON ...

89 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:03:51 PDT by Bobby777
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

Chicken Lou Little defending Islamist Nazis? Yeah I can see its perfectly appropriate coming from the same fella who called Judaism in terms I woudn't mention on FR. He seems to think mayhem and mass murder in the name of religion is justified huh? I am sorry Lou Little was not on one of the planes with the hijackers and every one else who was killed was down here. I don't think he likes this country great deal and it would have saved us the sight of him whining how oppressed he is to be a Muslim...

90 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:04:39 PDT by goldstategop
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To: austingirl

You are correct! If Farrakan were an average citizen, the FBI would already have been at their door-step! How serious are we about cleaning up this country?!!

sw

91 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:05:36 PDT by spectre
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To: American Soldier

Can we start with the major network news media?

92 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:08:35 PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Temple Drake

If we rounded up all Japanese-Americans after Pearl Harbor, why aren't we rounding up these pseudo-Moslems? These jackasses are standing in line to be complicit in what was done last Tuesday.

How dare this bow-tied, carnival geek even attempt to dictate war policy to President?

They belong in the same category that all Moslems of the world belong in: with the good Moslems of Cairo, et al, that danced in the streets at the news of the terrorist attacks. The Moslems that danced in the streets are no different from Moslems in North America......they all pray to Mecca!

93 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:09:04 PDT by GottliebBerger
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To: nofriendofbills

I was thinking the same thing.

94 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:09:27 PDT by rintense
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To: Temple Drake

I believe Tim Mcveigh was agnostic based on his prison interviews?

95 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:11:58 PDT by hollyweed
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To: Fairy CON

Hey Fairy CON:

You need to read the Bible. Just like your brother REV Al who said Mary & Joseph were homeless.
Armageddon is where GOOD overtakes EVIL. After evil ruled. Well we had 8 years of EVIL rulling. Now it is OUR turn.

96 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:12:50 PDT by Voter#537
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To: anapikoros

Fewer and fewer Americans buy that propaganda line.

97 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:13:43 PDT by Malachi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I was wondering what his real name is. What a geek.

www.DeclarationofWar.org

98 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:14:05 PDT by Spin
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To: hollyweed

"I believe Tim Mcveigh was agnostic based on his prison interviews?"

Well he knows the truth now. However it won't do him any good. His punishment: He got a glimse of Paradise, and that is his hell, living in eternity knowing what he could have had! ! ! ! ! !

99 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:17:34 PDT by Voter#537
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To: hollyweed

McVeigh returned to Catholicism at the end.
He confessed, he received Viaticum Extreme Unction and the last blessing

100 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:21:07 PDT by Malachi
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To: BobfromMichigan2001

whoa. That was the scariest description of Islam I have ever read.

101 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:22:49 PDT by Temple Drake
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To: BobfromMichigan2001

whoa. That was the scariest description of Islam I have ever read.

102 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:22:56 PDT by Temple Drake
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To: Voter#537

When you see the statement it appears the only long term solution to the problem is reformation of Islam. Does anyone know if there are reformation movements in the wings that could be supported to supplant the current structure?

103 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:25:31 PDT by hollyweed
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To: stainlessbanner

"Is Louie threatening us?"

I wonder how long he will be with us?

104 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:33:03 PDT by Don Myers
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To: CatoRenasci

"but we can charge him with giving aid and comfort to the enemy"

Bush has declared war, but Congress has not. For a war to be technically official, Congress has to do it. And I wonder if that is why they won't do it. Why wasn't Jane Fonda charged with treason, etc during the Vietnam "War?"

105 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:38:44 PDT by Don Myers
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To: Temple Drake

'"A better foreign policy of America would defeat terrorism forever in the world," he declared.'

That will be the day the "spaceships" he talks about in orbit around Earth with their "black scientists" aboard will descend and free all the brothers.

He is mentally ill - no other explanation is possible.

106 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:42:05 PDT by madtier1
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To: Mean Maryjean

Totally agree. This is about our misguided foreign policy that extends back to ca. 1945 and includes much more than simply Scumbag (aka Sick Willy the Rapist Klingon). We are the world's most powerful rogue state. I want a national debate on this, with all classified documents opened. Our government has done monstrous things quietly, behind the scenes, and in the name of our "vital national interest." All the emotional rhetoric about barbecuing Farrakahn does not invalidate his allegations about our foreign policy. We support Israel, but it has nothing to do with Jews. It has everything to do with middle eastern oil. We armed and paid for OBL in the 80s in Afghanistan's anti-USSR war, and then in the 90's we armed and paid for Taliban. I say we kill all the terrorists we can find, dump Israel, and then open up a Truth and Reconciliation Committee to teach this nation the truth about its "leadership" for the last 55 years. The truth hurts, but it will set you free.

107 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:47:00 PDT by DASDBill
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To: Temple Drake

Stealing TVs and gold, raping women and girls, murders, violence, aggression, bombings, hostility, war, etc.

That was all part of the last great Islamic jihad. During the Gulf War the Iraqi soldiers stole TVs and gold. They raped the women and girls. They committed murder and many other atrocities. I fail to see the moral and spiritual lessons they tried to convey.

The terrorists that bombed the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon killed many innocent men, women and children. Some of these so-called holy men were out drinking and partying at a nude bar before their acts of violence. They murdered thousands of innocent people for their religion.

America has become a decadent society. However, the animals that did these attacks certainly don't represent good. They represent evil, greed, anger, lust, envy, violence, and hatred.

Again, I fail to see the moral or spiritual value of stealing TVs and gold. I fail to see good in raping women and childern, murder, or terror. These people are evil.

God Bless America

108 Posted on 09/17/2001 09:47:03 PDT by boycott
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To: Louis Eugene Walcott

Hey Louie, did you know that Muhammad himself was a white man who owned black slaves?

"While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The man then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." " Shahi Bukhari's hadith Volume 1 number 63

"My father said, "I heard Ibn 'Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib: And a white (person) (i.e., the Prophet) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows." Shahi Al-Bukhari's hadith 2.122, narrated by Abdullah bin Dinar

"The Prophet never raised his hands for any invocation except for that of Istisqa' and he used to raise them so much that the whiteness of his armpits became visible." Shahi Al-Bukhari's hadith 2.141 narrated by Anas bin Malik

And by the way, Louie, Muhammad had several black slaves himself, including Abu Huraira, Bilal, and Ghullaam. Muhammad referred to Black people as raisin heads.

Cordially,

109 Posted on 09/17/2001 10:20:47 PDT by Diamond
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To: Temple Drake

Dear Temple, did you go to the website and read the entire article or did you just read my excerpts?

Please send this to everyone you know. Thanks, Bob.

ATTENTION – PLEASE GO TO http://answering-islam.org/Silas/terrorism.htm

THIS IS VERY UGLY. IT WILL MAKE YOU SICK TO YOUR STOMACH.

110 Posted on 09/17/2001 11:08:00 PDT by BobfromMichigan2001 (bobfrommichigan74@hotmail.com)
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To: dighton

Thanks for the heads up on the other thread....

111 Posted on 09/17/2001 11:25:43 PDT by antivenom
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To: diotima

HEY Girl!!!!

Seems to me that Chicago may be a "sacred place" if Calypso Louie decides to make it his "hide out".

Hope all is well with you and your family and hope to see you at a Freeper event in the near future.

God Bless you and your family, and our Country!

112 Posted on 09/17/2001 11:32:52 PDT by antivenom
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To: Temple Drake

LOUIS (GOEBBELS) FARRAKHAN-MINISTER OF HATE!

113 Posted on 09/17/2001 11:51:11 PDT by rockfish59
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To: Temple Drake

Tim McVeigh was not a Christian. He was an agnostic! He didn't believe in any kind of Higher Power....Get it right Louie!

114 Posted on 09/17/2001 11:56:54 PDT by missanne
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To: winodog

I was waiting for this.Look for more of the same from black leaders. I have a feeling blacks will not fight this war. They will be anti-bush and anti america.

You are wrong for several reasons:

1. Since 9/11, many blacks are now flying US flags from their homes and cars.

2. I'm black and my younger brother, who recently retired from the National Guard, is angry and ready to go take bin Laden out. Lots of other blacks are too.

3. Even Bush looks better in the eyes of blacks. Star Jones was saying on TV this morning that she was glad Bush was in charge right now, that she had a good feeling about him even though she has political differences with him. She is not the only black person who feels that way.

4. Most blacks have never really been anti-America- in fact, much of what makes people like JJ and Sharpton tick is their desire to be Americans.

5. Black people have fought willingly in every one of America's wars, often when they did not have to. A big part of the civil rights movement centered around the right for blacks to serve in the military.

6. The views of black "leadership" quite often differ from those of most other blacks. At the very least, nobody I know is waiting for Farrakhan, JJ, Sharpton, or anyone else to tell them how to feel about 9/11.

115 Posted on 09/17/2001 12:12:18 PDT by mafree
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To: Temple Drake

T-SHIRTS

116 Posted on 09/17/2001 12:13:37 PDT by JohnPaulJones
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To: Temple Drake

I'm still waiting for Farakkhan's "separatist" movement to separate itself. I hear there will soon be some vacancies in Afghanistan. Maybe the nation of islam can re-name the place "Afroghanistan."

117 Posted on 09/17/2001 12:18:07 PDT by Bonaparte
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To: antivenom

Hey You! I am good, all is OK here (except Calypso Louie and the "bowties." We also have JesseJackass too.

I hope you are safe and well! You going on the cruise?

118 Posted on 09/17/2001 12:22:19 PDT by diotima
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To: Temple Drake

I think Farrakhan should be investigated to see if his organization has provided any money, aid of any kind, housing or food for the terrorists. If he has, I think the President said he had some plans for people like that.

119 Posted on 09/17/2001 12:48:23 PDT by honway
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To: diotima

I'm in a bind on vaction days...have plans for family at the holidays...so I have to miss the cruise...believe me tho...I wanted to go, sounds like it will be alot of fun and great people. Good to see you ... glad you and your family is well.

120 Posted on 09/17/2001 17:28:28 PDT by antivenom
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To: Temple Drake

We should not have to feel their pain. They may be in pain but it was never caused by us. The pain they are feeling is caused by their leaders. And the only ones responsible for their pain is themselves. They do not know how to unit and rise up against those who oppress them. We did it in the Revolotionary War. If they could stop pointing fingers for a moment, maybe, just maybe, they would stop hateing us, and learn from us instead.

121 Posted on 09/17/2001 19:04:50 PDT by patriotic chipmunk
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To: American Soldier

Got rope?

Lots of it, and I am with you.

123 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:06:58 PDT by MileHi
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To: Temple Drake

Farrakahan is a maggot who should have his citizenship revoked and deported to Iraq....idealy shortly before we nuke them.

125 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:14:45 PDT by Caheaux
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To: Voter#537

Don't celebrate to early, it also says that the kings and queens of the earth weep because they can no longer trade all manner of goods with the great whore of Babylon. I think we know who that is.

126 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:19:29 PDT by steve50
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To: Temple Drake

God has already planned for armageddon to occur and there is no stopping it. So, praise the Lord and pass the amunition! Let the saints come marching in. LETS ROCK!

Farrakhan is a mouth peace for terror and terrorists. He is a traitor and should be jailed, deported, or erradicated in some form or another.

127 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:30:36 PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

"Louis Eugene Walcott is a pimp."

Look out now.... Rushdie said the same thing about his profit (mis-spelled on purpose) and now that peace loving religion is calling for his murder.

128 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:40:41 PDT by fella
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To: all

Farrakhan Warns of Armageddon if US Retaliates

Okay, then we'll have Armageddon! What do you care, Louis -- you're dying of prostate cancer! So sad!

129 Posted on 09/19/2001 11:46:13 PDT by Paranoid-Pessimist
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To: AppyPappy

The date of the attack : 9/11 - 9+1+1=11
September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2+5+4=11
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
119 Is the area code to Iraq/Iran 1+1+9=11
Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11
The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
State of New York - The 11th State added to the union
New York City - 11 letters
Afghanistan - 11 letters
The Pentagon - 11 letters
Ramzi Yousef - 11 letters (CONVICTED OR ORCHESTRATING THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN 1993)
Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9+2=11
Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6+5=11

So, then, the Rosicrucians did it?

Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam" is not recognized by muslims as having anything to do with Islam. It's about "Black."

was-salaam,
ankaboot

130 Posted on 09/20/2001 00:48:07 PDT by ankaboot (muslims@earthlink.net)
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To: Temple Drake

Salaam!

To open a Thread for all the standard falsehoods that have been produced about Islam in three thousand years, you probably couldn't have done better than to start with the thirtieth false prophet, Elijah "James Poole" Muhammad and his former erstwhile racist follower Louis.

It's a nice litmus test, by the way. Anyone who thinks the so-called "Nation of Islam" has anything to do with Islam is not a muslim, period, and knows nothing about Islam, period.

Saves me a lot of time, this is one Thread I don't have to watch -- I know there's nothing here and won't be that is at all informative for Americans.

Have fun, say hello to all the Hindus who will undoubtedly show up for the "carnage" while people tear apart straw men.

Mean Maryjean seems to be awake, and The Documentary Lady, Razwan has it right. I like Standing Wolf's comment 65, Frumious Bandersnatch at 85 makes sense.

BobfromMichigan2001 has quite an agenda -- and plenty of misinformation, but Temple Drake (101-102) needn't worry, it's not remotely a description of Islam, it's just racist propaganda like Louis' stuff. Hollyweed (103): yes. Boycott (108) has it right but fails to draw the obvious conclusion that the terrorists had nothing to do with Islam.

Looks like a dead Thread. Definitely empty, anyway.

was-salaam,
ankaboot

131 Posted on 09/20/2001 09:56:38 PDT by ankaboot (muslims@earthlink.net)
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To: ankaboot

Dear ladies and gentleman, FYI we have an activist in here with nothing better to do than argue all day long. Having been asked to shut up about spreading propoganda about his religion and politics on news.grc.com, he proceeds to come here and spread more propoganda. Unemployed and scrounging off state welfare while exercising his freedom of speech which also covers telling lies and twisting anything people post and deliberately quoting out of context. You should be aware that (ankaboot) aka (Abujamal) aka (Dawud Ahmad Al-Amriki) is well known across many newsgroups as a TROLL. A visit to grc.news.feedback and grc.ten-forward a week or so back will give you an indication of what this guy is all about. He loves nothing better than to expose peoples names and addresses if they disagree with him or his activist minions. He will argue forever about nothing just for arguements sake and he is best off completely ignored as he always has to have the last word. Ignoring him completely like so many others do upsets him all the more and he goes away with his tail between his legs to spread FUD elsewhere. You will also find his propoganda on muslim groups on deja. A visit to his website at http://www.muslimamerica.net will give you an idea that this guy is a troublemaker first class. He uses 3 different email addresses that are well known muslims@earthlink.net abujamal@pchelpers.org and muslims@muslimamerica.net. Dawud Ahmad Al-Amriki, Muslim America, P.O. Box 231, Springdale, WA, 99173-0231, tel. (509) 258-9031, fax 1 (800) Muslims. Springdale, WA USA Here are some other useful details about this TROLL that is trying to hide his identity under this new alias. Beware like all TROLLS he has many aliases but he is easy to spot from his email addresses and the propoganda he spreads. He claims the only hope for America is Islam and that if you insult him that you should be careful his more militant brothers do not get to hear of it from him. Do a little research on him with the above search criteria and you will turn up alsorts of fundamentalist and radical activist crap, screaming for jihad and many more of his cut and paste ramblings posted to enflame and poke a reaction. Hey Abujamal, Give it up TROLL the game is up. We know what you are. We know what you stand for and we know what you are up to. *vome*

132 Posted on 09/24/2001 18:14:18 PDT by vome
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To: Nuke'm Glowing

"permanent air sickness bag"

R O T F L O L !!!

Thanks, I needed that!!

133 Posted on 09/24/2001 18:35:58 PDT by Sueann
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To: vome

Salaam!

Glad you could make it. Welcome to Free Republic com, the on-line home of middle America.

Freepers, I know this poster from the computer privacy and internetworking security newsgroups hosted by Steve Gibson, who is currently helping the FBI -- at their request and in conjunction with the National Infrastructure Protection Center -- search for leads to those behind the Tuesday terrorist attack. At the request of the National Security Council through CERT (I've forgotten what that stands for), Steve Gibson has also written a basic introduction to what Americans will need to do in order to do their part in the cyber war that is also being waged by the terrorists. It will be public in a short time, you can read it now on Steve's newsgroups .

This post is *not* representative of news.grc.com/grc.news.feedback where we were discussing the Ida Code Red Worm and more lately the nimda worm, and in one newsgroup the terror war launched against America.

Expect to see more of these posts. The writer is a very hard worker and has a very dull axe to grind.

I thought he'd posted this to all of the Threads below, but he missed one.

was-salaam,
ankaboot
--
Rejoice, muslims, in martyrdom without fighting,
a Mercy for us. Be like the better son of Adam.

Islam the Straight Path to God
Guide to Events
Message from the Muslim Community
A Political Process for Muslim America
"What I expect from American Muslims"
"Here may be our problem with Islam"
Position of US National Muslim Organizations
Taliban Leader summons religious scholars
US Rejects Afghan Clerics' Ruling on Bin Laden
FBI Obtains Terrorist E-Mails
Farrakhan Warns of Armageddon
A Principled Opponent
A Serious Islam Question
Text of Fatwa by Bin Laden -- False and Void
"Smoking them out" is not new in the Middle East
China's Role in Osama Bin Laden's "Holy War" on America
A Moment for Truth

134 Posted on 09/25/2001 01:00:58 PDT by ankaboot (muslims@earthlink.net)
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To: Temple Drake

I sure hope someone is keeping a good eye on the Black Muslims now. I think they do believe in violence and some might be very eager to bring on an Islamic state where they think they'll be rewarded high up government positions for their efforts.

135 Posted on 09/30/2001 09:57:12 PDT by FITZ
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To: ankaboot

bump

136 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:25:08 PDT by Samaritan
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To: missanne

Tim McVeigh was not a Christian.

I thought I was going to go insane searching for this point. I believe McVeigh expressed defiant disbelief of any Christian God. His God was Some Norse God of War or something. It escapes me.


137 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:38:11 PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: sayfer bullets

I believe he was a proffesed athiest. Certainly never claimed Christianity. Who knows where nut-boy Farrkanman got that bit.

138 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:45:24 PDT by Cleburne
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To: Temple Drake

He then accused the American government and media of unfairness towards Muslims. He noted that convicted Oklahoma City Bomber Timothy McVeigh professed to be a Christian, yet the U.S. did not fear all Christians.

But, Mr Farrakhan, Christians have not been on a 50 year terror campaign against the U.S. and it was an abberation of terror to hit the U.S. not seen since Pearl Harbor.

139 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:52:24 PDT by WileyCoyote22
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To: Temple Drake

Let's air drop Farrakhan over Afghanistan so he can show his love to his fellow Muslims...

140 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:54:54 PDT by Bush2000
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To: Cleburne

Who knows where nut-boy Farrkanman got that bit.

White, Christian...you know. We all look the same, do the same thing. We all are offspring of Zionist-imperialist bankers. We all have nineteen-inch tails.

Million-Man-Math-Made-Easy.


141 Posted on 10/01/2001 19:11:03 PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: VA Advogado

lol

142 Posted on 10/01/2001 19:14:54 PDT by sickandtired
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To: ankaboot

Muslims have contributed nothing but violence murder and oppression to the rest of the humanity since 700 AD, Anything? can u say to prove me wrong?

143 Posted on 10/01/2001 19:19:35 PDT by sickandtired
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To: ankaboot

How does this sound for peace love and tolerance Islam style.

Wondrous Treatment Of Kafirs In Islam L ast week you read about the cruel treatment of women in Islam. I shall continue along the same lines and write about the horrible treatment of kafirs (non-muslims) by muslims which the Quran completely justifies.

To understand this cruel treatment by the muslims one has to understand why Islam was originated. As Anwar Sheikh, a free thinker has said in his book, Islam is nothing but a Arab National Movement. This movement was the dream of Mohammed who wanted everything under his control. Islam was a convenient religious excuse for him to do this.

For this movement to be successful, Mohammed had to find a way to control mindless people and justify the brutal merciless killings. Thus Islam was devised and propagated by a band of dacoits.

To start with, the Great Mohammed divided the Arabian society in two tight compartments:

Momins

Kafirs

The word momin means believer in Mohammed and Allah. In contrast a kafir is a non-believer. The momins did not have to be better men than the Kafirs in terms of character or consciousness. Momins had only to recite the Kalima (incantation)- "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet." By doing that the 'momins' become qualified to kill as many kafirs as they could or pleased, looting and burning their belongings and enslaving their women and children in the process.

The momins were not of course risking their lives for nothing. Four-fifths of the booty and prisoners captured in war was theirs in accordance with the law laid down in the Quran by the prophet himself. The prisoners included quite a number of fair and young maidens who could set any momin's mouth watering. No wonder that the infant state of Islam at Medina was able to assemble very soon quite a number of dedicated swordsmen without spending a penny from its own coffers. The principle of free enterprise applied to plunder an pillage was functioning with full force.

The prophet of Islam proclaimed that Allah has assigned the whole world to the momins. Not a patch was to be left for the kafirs to dwell. But it seems that Allah's knowledge of geography was not so good. It looks like Allah's Prophet Mohammed had not heard of many lands beyond Syria, Iraq, Persia, Ethiopia, and Egypt. Notwithstanding this lack of geographical knowledge, the prophet divided the world in two contending spheres--darul-Islam(the zone of peace where the mulsims were the dominant element) and darul-Harb (the zone of war where the kafirs or non-muslims held sway). Anwar Sheikh says,

"The philosophy that lies behind Islam is stunning and proves the consummate political skill of the Prophet Mohammed: by declaring all Muslims as one nation and the non-Muslims as another, he created the Two Nation Theory, perpetually setting Muslims against non-Muslims. Again, he stressed that in this struggle the Muslims would be victorious."

We see this philosophy in practice in the modern times. The partition of India was based totally on this. Here Pakistan and Bangladesh are darul-Islam whereas India is darul-Harb. The recent religious wars in Bosnia were also based on this.

Anwar Sheikh further says,

"I am referring to the prophet's declaration that Allah has made him the Model of Practice for his followers. It has come to mean that the Muslims must copy him in everything, they must eat, drink, walk and talk like him, even must look like him, that is, they grow beard like his, have a similar hair-cut and dress like him. This is what is called followings the Sunnah .i.e., the Prophetic: Model which is the guarantee of salvation. One can easily say that Islam has been designed to induce respect and love for Arabia. There are express commands of the Prophet, which state that a person is not Muslim until he loves him more than his own father and mother. The idea is that people must be weaned from their own nationalities and motherlands, and attached firmly to Mecca. This is the reason that the Muslims of India call their own homeland as the battlefield and Arabia the fountain of peace and celestial glory. Now, it is perhaps, easy for you to understand why the Muslims of India partitioned their own motherland for practicing the Arab cultural values in Pakistan (and Bangladesh)."

To ensure the superiority of darul- Islam the prophet, Mohammed took the following steps:

When Adam was evicted from paradise, he came to Mecca where he built the first house of God. Thus, he identifies Godliness with Kabba, a sanctuary of Mecca where God lives.

For the purpose of imposing Arab psychological superiority on non-Arab Muslims, he decreed that they must prostrate five-times- a-day facing Mecca. This is not only an act of submission to Mecca, the capital city of Arabia, but also proves beyond a shadow of doubt that God lives in Mecca, otherwise why should people prostrate in that direction?

A Muslim must not defecate himself or answer the call of nature facing Mecca. It is a blasphemous act in view of the sanctity of Mecca.

When Muslims die, they must be buried facing Mecca, which is the guarantee of their salvation.

To make sure that the Arabs enjoy economic opulence, the Prophet made Hajj as obligatory ritual for his followers. It is a pilgrimage to Mecca. There are countless Indian Muslims who sell their homes and personal belongings to undertake this journey.

The muslims must love Arabia because the prophet did so. They must follow him as the Divine Model of Practice. This is what Islam expects of muslims. If they don't, they are sure to enter hell because the Prophet will not intercede on their behalf. Intercession is the special power of the Prophet Mohammed. He will recommend paradise for his followers on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are followers of the Prophet. On the contrary, all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Christians will be cast into a flaming hell, no matter, how pious and God-fearing they may have been. Piety has no meaning and value without believing in Mohammed and the greatness of his homeland. Intercession is the climax of the Prophet's National wisdom--

It is this Muslim belief which gives them the hope of free sex and economic abundance, and they feel obliged to kill in the name of Islam. This is why they are ever ready to stab their motherland. After all, caring about one's country entails sacrifices whereas the comforts of paradise are sweet and splendid. And it is especially so when they involve no moral responsibility.

After reading the above passages you should be able to comprehend the true nature of a muslim and the reason behind the countless killings, rapes, arsons, and loots done by muslims throughout history. Now I will quote from the Quran below to support what I have stated above. The chapters and verse numbers are also stated here for refernce.

Verses from the Koran:

VIII/12: When thy Lord inspired the angels (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

Here one can clearly see that the Quran is openly saying to the muslims to give a torturous death to those who are non-believers of the Islamic faith.

XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

From the above passage you can clearly see that according to Mohammed, Allah has reserved a special place for non- mulsims--HELL!

IX/5: Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor- due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

This verse tells us that muslims are free to convert non-muslims by force and brutality. If unsuccessful in doing so, they are free to kill.

IX/73: Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.

LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

Here we get a description of how to punish Non Muslims. This is in practice even today in Islamic countries. In fact, the Sikh Gurus and their families were tortured by muslims as prescribed in the Quran. For example, Sikh guru Tegh Bahadur on refusing to accept Islam, was brought to the prison in a cage like he was a wild animal. Three of his disciples were murdered in front of him. One of them was Bhai Mati Das. He was sawed alive. The other was wrapped up in cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala, the third one, was boiled alive. Guru Tegh Bahadur himself was brutally tortured and killed in a similar fashion. We see further support of these types of torments in the verses below.

XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil's heads) - the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

IX/123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

IV/144: O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

This verse clarifies the fact that a true Muslim can never be a friend of a person of another faith. People who believe otherwise are under delusion.

IX/29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

This verse in Quran gave birth to the law that all non muslims living in an Islamic state have to pay the jiziya or poll tax for the privilege of being there. These people are called zimmis and are allowed to live and work in the Islamic lands under the following 20 disabilities: (one has to wonder if apartheid was derived from this)

They are not to build any new places of worship.

They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.

They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.

They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill. They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.

They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam. They have to show respect to every Muslim. They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.

They are not to dress like muslims. They are not to name themselves with Muslim names. They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.

They are not to possess arms. They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers. They are not to sell or drink liquor openly

They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status and separates them from Muslims. They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.

They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims. They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.

They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly. They are not to buy muslim slaves.

Here again I have stated another handful of facts which expose the true nature of Islam. Any logical person by now should have realized that Islam is meant for the lowest of the low. The followers of Islam are mindless tyrannical demons who know nothing better than killing and torturing people in the name of Allah. And they do this because a pervert named Mohammed, among other things, promised his followers 72 Houris (Beautiful Virgin Women) and virility of 100 men in 'Jannat' (Heaven). This is very puzzling--why virility of 100 men and only 72 houris? Why not 100 houris? The answer is very simple--the prophet Mohammed promises these "pious" muslims that they will also be given 28 young boys in addition to the 72 houris for their sexual pleasure.

NOTE: The works of A. Ghosh and Anwar Sheikh have been used in this article.


144 Posted on 10/01/2001 19:42:31 PDT by sickandtired
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