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Arab Ministers Denounce "Attacks," Anti-Arab Campaign

Foreign Affairs Breaking News News Keywords: POOR PICKED ON TERRORISTS
Source: Middle East News Online
Published: Thursday September 27, 2001 Author: Unknown
Posted on 09/27/2001 22:25:20 PDT by erizona

Arab Ministers Denounce "Attacks," Anti-Arab Campaign
Syria Times (Damascus)

Posted Thursday September 27, 2001 - 10:40:31 AM EDT

TUNIS - The General Secretariat of the Council of Arab Interior Ministers condemned terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and denounced the fierce campaigns of accusations launched against Arab and Muslim American citizens, calling for dealing with the state of affairs wisely and rationally and for not making reckless and false accusations.

In a Wednesday statement, the Secretariat said the Arab countries were the first to confront terrorism and to call upon the whole world to combat terrorism decisively in terms of convening a UN-sponsored conference to define and confront it.

The Secretariat reiterated its refusal to accuse Islam of terrorism as the heavenly religion is based on amity, tolerance, fraternity and discarding violence.

The statement said the Arab Council has pinpointed its stance against terrorism and repeatedly called for battling it, especially when the Arab countries have suffered great losses due to Israel's incessant terrorism.

"It is really awkward that some parties, especially the US, launch campaigns of calumny against the Arabs and Muslims accusing them without having any established evidence," the statement of the Secretariat said.

YUP!

We're only going to shoot terrorists and terrorist camps, so if you're not a terrorist please move out of the way of the guns. Arab non-terrorists, therefore, have nothing to fear.

What a bunch of asses. I'd love to hear them explain why so many Christians in their country continue to be persecuted in record numbers. I don't believe there is even ONE Muslim in an American prison who is there because of his religious beliefs. I don't believe I've ever heard of a radical Christian strapping explosives to his chest and walking into a mosque or a Muslim shopping area. The hypocrisy and blindness of these people is nothing short of astounding.

The Secretariat reiterated its refusal to accuse Islam of terrorism as the heavenly religion is based on amity, tolerance, fraternity and discarding violence.

Are they reading the same Koran as the radicals? How can BOTH be true followers of Allah and Mohammed? I've read too many verses from the Koran recently to buy into the shrill insistence that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion. OTOH if someone can clarify this for me, I'd be happy to listen.

The General Secretariat of the Council of Arab Interior Ministers

Ever notice how these pan Arab Islamics can't ever just condemn? They always have to attach a number of caveats to their vacuous comments. Instead of attacking Bin Laden, Islamic fundamentalism, etc. the knucklehead uses it as an opportunity to take a shot at the U.S.

I don't believe I've ever heard of a radical Christian strapping explosives to his chest and walking into a mosque or a Muslim shopping area.

No, just blowing up abortion clinics, murdering doctors, and terrorizing their families. Of course driving a car into mosques or firebombing them is a new pass time. That is okay. Why ruin a good rant?

Oh look, I think there is a log in my eye....

Surprise, surprise. The fringe group according to the Arab man on the street is normative, regular, grade A Islam. The Islam of the leaders of the states is the fringe group. They want to topple all their leaders too. So how big is the Islamic terror problem abut as big the commentator allows you to think it is.

You said it sista!

The Sanitation Of Islam
Where Was The "Normal" Voice Of Islam?

September 25, 2001

By Howard Galganov

The developing military coalition does not want to make the impending war, a war between the East and the West, and between Islam and Judeo-Christianity. It does not want to polarize the enemy into forming a billion person coalition of its own. But it’s too late; Pandora’s box has been opened. The world of fundamentalist Islam has declared war on everything that is represented by the West — including Western based religions and our modern culture.

Since the terrorist attack, we have all been inundated with the "sanitation of Islam" from every corner of the world. We have seen and heard no shortage of world Islamic leaders claim that their’s is a religion of great tolerance, peace and love. And they are deeply wounded by the murder and destruction. But if their hearts are all so broken, and if Islam is against killing and violence, then where have their voices been for the past 30 years and more?

This past Sunday, September 23, 2001, the religions of the world came together at Yankee Stadium for a gigantic prayer and memorial service. It was one of the most touching events I have ever witnessed. Religious, political and entertainment notables spoke, prayed and performed. It truly represented the best in mankind. But something was missing — the truth.

I heard a heartwarming sermon from the Moslems, and I will take it at the religious leader’s word, that what he had to say was what he believed about harmony, respect and love for all — even those of different faiths. So, I have to ask myself: How come these peace loving people have never before come forward to condemn murder and violence through racism, sexism and religious nationalism carried out in the name of Islam?

I have recently heard no shortage of Moslems who have compared the demonization of Islam to the fact that no one condemned Timothy McVey’s outrage in Oklahoma as a Christian act of terrorism, and the slaughter of Moslems at prayer at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, as an act of Jewish terrorism?

They, within the Moslem world, who compare the so-called double standard are wrong. American Christian fundamentalists with a bent towards violence are constantly demonized in the US press, on radio, on television and in Hollywood productions. And as for Baruch Goldstein at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, Israel, and outraged Jews all over the world could not have been more saddened and outraged by his attack against humanity. And the Jewish anger against Goldstein was not kept a secret. He, and what he did was publicly condemned by the entire Jewish world. Without equivocation.

But where have all of these "saddened" Moslems been hiding during the non stop terror attacks that has killed many hundreds of innocent people in Israel? I don’t recall ever hearing their outcry against this perversion of Islam that was responsible for the slaughter of Jewish children in schools, Israeli athletes at the Olympics, Jews and others at airports, on busses, in markets, at discotheques, pizza parlors and around the world in countries that have nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism and Israel; such as the bombing of a Jewish owned delicatessen in Paris, and at the Jewish community center in Argentina.

Where was even the slightest criticism from the Arab and Moslem community at the visual and public outburst of joy and celebration in the streets of the West Bank, Lebanon and other Middle Eastern countries, while grieving Jews collected the human body parts of those blown apart by Islamic Arab fundamentalist suicide bombers? Instead of condemnation, the Arabic Moslem children were given candy, in order to enjoy the sweetness of the murder carried out in the name of Allah. Do you remember ever hearing any condemnation from anyone in the Arab and Moslem world at this vulgar spectacle?

I guess by now, it was not unusual for Arab Moslems to be seen dancing in the streets in celebration of the murder of Jews. But it's an entirely different thing when these same Arab Moslems danced in the streets at the murder of people in New York City, Washington DC and on those four crashed passenger planes.

How can a religion that forbids women from enjoying life as equal human beings, be considered to be as loving as the current spokes-people for Islam claim? How can a religion that orders women to be stoned to death for infidelity, or even less; and for robbers of a loaf of bread to have a limb amputated as retribution in the name of justice, claim to be anything but barbaric?

Even the word Jihad all of a sudden no longer means holy war — at least to the Moslem spin doctors. But it’s quite remarkable how every nation in Islam, especially the countries of the Middle East have shouted Jihad against the Jews and the imperialist Americans for as long as I can remember. Even Yasser Arafat, up until September 11, 2001, spoke of Jihad. What happened?

And then there is the cry from the Arab world, that they should not be singled out for this extreme act of terrorism. They don’t want to be profiled at airports and at other areas where large gatherings occur.

Who was on those airplanes that changed the world, and caused so much grief? Were they not Arab Moslems? Who have been highjacking airplanes, killing innocent people and blowing up buildings since the 60's? Who operates terrorist training camps in the Middle East, North Africa and Centra Asia?

Forgive me for telling it like it is. But the answer to all of the above is crystal clear. Now, let me get back to the Arabs who don’t want to be profiled or treated differently because of recent events. Where has their voice been in condemnation of those Arabs, whom for so long terrorized the world? Where has the Moslem voice been hiding, while people have routinely been massacred in the name of Allah and the Koran?

The Arabs and the Moslems who are now so vocal, were silent until today, only because it didn’t matter when the venom of their culture and religious hatred restricted their actions to the murder and terror, primarily of Jews in the Middle East. It didn’t touch them then. But now it does. So, all of a sudden, there is outrage and condemnation for terrorism from the once silent and invisible Arab and Moslem communities. But it is not moral outrage that has forced the Arab and Moslem communities to explain and apologize for what has just happened — it is fear of retribution.

I have quite a few Arab friends and associates who I care a great deal about. And my heart does break for them, because they are no more guilty of this obscenity than I am. And they should neither be profiled nor feared. Nothing they could have said or done would have changed anything. But that is not true of their leadership.

The leaders of their communities could have said plenty before this past horror. Yet, instead of publicly standing up for decency, they chose silence. And now, there is a price to pay. We can only hope, that from this outrage and impending war, the Arab and Moslem world will finally get the message; that what is done in their name, religion and culture will affect them with grave consequences.

I will add to what President George W Bush had to say about nations that are not with the United States in this epic battle against terrorism. If the "normal" Arab and Moslem world will not condemn those within their own culture and community, who carry on acts of racial violence and hatred towards all people; including Jews and Israelis, then we must assume that they are with the perpetrators.

After September 11, 2001, there is no longer any room for silence or fence sitting.

Yeah!

And don't you forget it either.

After all, Killing INNOCENT BABIES is more noble than strapping explosives to your body and killing INNOCENT WOMEN and CHILDREN.

I can see how terrorists killing themselves and INNOCENT WOMEN and CHILDREN will save the same number of INNOCENT LIVES as the radical nutcase Christians will save killing the Fascist Commandants of the Nazi Extermination Camps called Abortion clinics.

After all, no one cares about that which they can't see right? (1.5 MILLION INNOCENT BABIES EACH YEAR IN THE US ALONE {How many WTC's is that?)

PS While I don't advocate the killing of baby murderers I can't for the life of me understand the thinking behind such an asinine statement as the one Tariq has made.

Maybe Tariq should crawl back into that hole he/she slithered out of until Political Correctness is in vogue again.

Ya Think?

Well, Tariq, welcome to Free Republic.

The isolated incidents that you mention are tiny in comparison to the ongoing persecution of Christians and others in Muslim-controlled nations and the barbarous acts of terrorism committed by Islamo-fascists and Muslim extremists.

The Muslim-engineered near genocide of Christian tribes and the enslavement of Christian women and children in the Sudan, the ongoing persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt and the forced conversions and forced marriages of Christian women in Egypt, the murders and executions of the Bahai in Iran, and the list goes on and on....

Comparing Christian extremists to Muslim terrorists is a bit like comparing food poisoning to the ingesting of cyanide.

Hooray! Someone has finally said it. These "moderate" Muslims are quick to take offense, but slow to comdemn their own. It's time for choosing sides.

Seven thousand innocents are lying blasted to bits under mountains of rubble in NYC.

And just how many abortion doctors have been killed in the past ten years?

And what major American clerics or politicians have supported them?

To equate these tiny few anti abortion fanatics to the massive and widespread support for the worldwide jihad against America is laughable.

And by the way, exactly which sick twisted religion promises an eternity of sex orgies with 72 virgins in return for committing mass murder in the name of its god?

Great letter, has it been posted on its own thread?

The Koran reveals three choices. Convert to Islam, become a second class citizen or get killed. I guess we are being shown option three, while being told how moslems are being abused and misunderstood. I cannot stand such lies.Can you?

Actually the terrorists are only offered 70 virgins for killing infidels. Had they been offered 72 virgins, I am afraid there might have been a few more death planes in the air. We are dealing with a cult of assassins.

Re your # 6 and welcome to the Free Republic!!

Islam is clearly the religion of death in this world with "religious" Clerics applauding the execution of innocent people in Africa, America, Asia,and Europe.

The Mullahs say this is not so since the Koran forbids such activity but then in private, they lead their people to commit murder.

These Mullahs do so to retain their own positions of power and temporal well being in this world for themselves and their families.

It's an insane death cult.

It may be the end of islam as we have known it also: these maniacs are going to give the West their best shot, perhaps kill millions of us and ruin our economy and in part our ecology, and in so doing aroouse such an anger that their nations will be cut off and quarantined from the civilized world.

Then they will get to try to run their tenth century theocracies with tenth century economies as well.

Tariq provided a very topical answer and a good comparison between Christian and Islamic fundamentalists. You, erizona, wasted the opportunity to speak to him and instead ranted for half a page (I'm still wiping the foam off of myself after that one) and broke the "no personal attacks" rule.

Take a valium and come back when you can be civil.

Welcome to FR Tariq, hope you stick around for a while.

Great letter, has it been posted on its own thread?

Not yet. It thought it was a bit, maybe too hard-hitting to stand alone. But what the hey.... why not?
Worse thing that can happen is it gets deleted.

Seems to me that we should attempt to tie these countries to the rest of the world with economics, culture, and engagement. Going for "The end of Islam" is non-sensical and would put us at war with at least 1/6th of the world.

Rememer: Levi's jeans, Coke, and Rock&Roll did as much if not more than nuclear weapons did to end the Cold War.

I think it passes muster.

Damn, but the Italian prime minister is beginning to make sense.

No, just blowing up abortion clinics, murdering doctors, and terrorizing their families. Of course driving a car into mosques or firebombing them is a new pass time. That is okay. Why ruin a good rant?

You are comparing apples and oranges in your statement.What you are saying, is an issue between cristians of various factions, unlike imposing your view upon another religious faith. The cristians, if my memory serves me right, except the medieval times have never impose their view on to the islamic faith.

The cristians do not have any "Intifada" against islam. They do not go blowing up buildings, killing innocent people in the name of God, with the promise to get laid in the afterlife by some "X" numbers of virgins.

Thats is a pretty pathetic state of mind, come to think of and downright hypocritical when they condemn the decadence in the western society in showing scantily clad babes on "Baywatch" for example, or the drive to succed in life and of course enjoing the buying power of the allmighty "Dollar".

To me this is yet another sign of their impotence to compete or be on par with the "Great Satan".Hence their desperate attack on the vestiges of the almighty sign of the absolute capitalism, The Twin Towers.

One more question for you: name me anything, anybody in the arab world, including the islamic faith, have done in the past 1000 years to better the human kind.

It will not be by a whim that these nations may be cut off from the civiized world, it will be for our survival.

They already have the Pepsi, Levis and KFC, and their fanatics still want to kill us. The "westernizing infuence" has not moderated them, it has inflamed them.

Prediction: mass deportations within 5 years. Remember, the WTC was brought down by 19 insane death cultists with box cutters.

Half of America can be set afire by a thousand insane death cultists "armed" with butane lighters.

Civilization can not exist when the insane death cultists burrowed inside go on mass murder and destruction missions. They will have to go for society and civilization to continue to exist.

No, just blowing up abortion clinics, murdering doctors, and terrorizing their families. Of course driving a car into mosques or firebombing them is a new pass time. That is okay.

Religious fanaticism in any manifestationnis evil. The difference is that with the events of Christian zealots bombing abortuaries, and murdering doctors, you have isolated fanatics pursuing their own isolated agendas, completely separate and detached from any large-scale politico/religious movements. They focust their crimes on highly specific targets, within a narrow, structured mission — abortion, and it's clients. The "Armies of God" and other similar groups are extremist, isolated, unique and quite small. They get support from virtually no one, and are universally condemned by virtually all Christians and Christian institutions.

Usama bin Laden, and his groups receive tacit approval and support from a large number of Muslim zealots and fundamentalist Muslims. The actions of the Sept 11 terrorists was not isolated, but widespread and directed at innocent civilians totally unconnected with any issues the perpetrators are really addressing. The support for this atrocity was quite evident (by the publicly expressed joy) in certain countries in Asia, and the middle east. The aim of Muslim terrorists is just that — widespread terror and maximum death.

It may be in interesting sophistry to try and compare the abortion related crimes to that of the Sept 11 terrorists, but it's just that — sophistry.

Unless, of course, you wish to list tit-for-tat terrorist outrages. Are you keeping count?

I shall post it, post-haste.

Link to on-line Game:

Bin-Laden liquor store SHOOTOUT!

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No, just blowing up abortion clinics, murdering doctors, and terrorizing their families. Of course driving a car into mosques or firebombing them is a new pass time.

Somehow, I think this pales in comparison.

Thanks very much for the link to the addictive video game!!!!

ROFLMAO!! all that while drinking a slushy!!!

Nice straw man, Tariq. But while you were fellating Mohammed, you failed to notice a few things:

(1) Fewer than ten abortionists have been killed in attacks by Christians - all of whom were radical extremists. As opposed to the thousands and thousands of people murdered by Muslims. The miniscule number on the one hand shows that the Christians who do this really are out of the mainstream - the vast number of people murdered by Muslims and the dancing with joy of millions of Muslims in the streets when they are killed speaks volumes about how "marginal" these murderers really are.

(2) Every Christian denomination has roundly condemned such attacks. Many Muslim groups and sects have either ignored or praised the attacks.

(3) No Christian denomination hedged their condemnation with qualifications or modifiers at any time. Even the tiny handful of Muslims who condemned the attacks couched their condemnations in equivocal language.

(4) The Christian murderers specifically targeted persons they believed to be responsible for murdering children. They shot abortionists - they didn't murder 7,000 people chosen at random. Why? Because even in their disturbed minds they remembered that Christianity is essentially about justice and does not condone the murder of innocents. Muslim murderers do what Muslims have always done throughout history - murdered the innocent in droves without any remorse or even pretense of discernment.

(5) These Christian murderers lived in a country which is 70+% professing Christian - yet so few Christians were willing to help or hide them that they had to flee abroad (Kopp) or into the wilderness (Rudolph) to avoid capture by Christians and prosecution by Christians. Muslim murderers find asylum throughout the Muslim world, being hailed as heroes and champions throughout it. Muslim governments refuse to prosecute them for their crimes, give them refuge, and only withdraw active support when they are threatened with reprisal.

(6) Religiously-motivated Christian murderers are so rare that only four exist in the US. The Muslim world has so many they can afford to export hundreds of them to foreign countries and 19 of them can commit suicide confident that more are coming to take their place.

Islam is a murderous ideology like Nazism or Communism - read Mein Kampf, What Is To Be Done or the "Noble" Qu'ran - mass murder is an essential tool for the spread and consolidation of all three. I don't recall Jesus telling his apostles to lie in wait for nonChristians, and to smite their necks and cut off their fingers.

See post #33 for my critique of Tariq's ridiculous argument.

bttttt

Christians are not naming their sons after the murderers of abortionists.

Osama is the second most popular name in the Muslim world.

Mrs VS

If Moslems ever become the dominant religion in the US, the Abortion clinics will all be blown up by the government. And further any woman that NEEDS an abortion will just be put to death, so abortion will no longer be necessary.

Phony, pathetic, useless moral equivalency BS. Here's the problem of Islamic fundamentalism or Islamicism:

CDHR Declaration at Durban

Radical Islamism = Racism = Genocide…

Jihad-Islamism (not Islam) abuses human rights worldwide

Declaration by The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights Affirming the Dangers of Radical Islamism and a Call to Recognize the Historical Oppression of Religious Minorities Subjected to this Racist-like Practice.

We, the members of The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights, representing minority religious and ethnic communities from around the world, call upon the World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, now meeting in Durban, South Africa, to address and condemn the ideology of Radical Islamism — a deviation from Islam — as intolerant, xenophobic, racist, supremacist, discriminatory, anti-democratic, and genocidal.

We also call upon the Conference to alert the international community to the widespread dangers of Radical Islamism's culture of animosity and destruction, and to remember and honor the victims of this oppressive ideology of hate toward religious minorities of all beliefs, races, and nationalities.

Finally, we call upon the Conference to recognize that Radical Islamism is a totalitarian movement aimed at establishing a worldwide Radical Islamist state that would:

• Divide Humanity into two groups: those defined as righteous Muslims or infidels;
• Support religious wars against non-Islamist Muslims and non-Muslim infidels worldwide;
• Establish an Apartheid-like regime similar to those in Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan, to subjugate and control infidels;
• Legitimize and extend human rights abuses — including slavery — on a massive scale;
• Employ a global economic resource (oil) as a weapon against non-Muslim nations in the service of its goals.

We believe that the World Conference must act in a manner consistent with the defense of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and ensure that its summary record reflect that Radical Islamism is recognized by all democratic societies as an evil doctrine that should be confronted at Durban and in all United Nations bodies.

To that end, the Conference should recognize the following irrefutable historical facts and warn against the future threats of Radical Islamism:

(I) Radical Islamism Sanctions War through its Radicalized Version of a World Religion.

(A) Jihad, or Holy War, is a religiously sanctioned call for individual and collective violence made by Radical Islamists against "infidels" worldwide. In the past, the concept of Jihad was responsible for many of the greatest tragedies in human history. For over thirteen centuries, millions of human lives have been sacrificed by Jihad campaigns around the world . Now, inspired and organized by the Supremacist ideology of Radical Islamism, Jihad again threatens millions of individuals across the globe.

(B) Fatah, or military conquest, is the employment of Jihad for imperial expansion and colonization of non-Islamic lands. Radical Islamists believe that Fatah is as legitimate today as when the concept gave rise to a series of invasions of countries outside Islam's original birthplace in the Arabian Peninsula.

Historically, Fatah was employed repeatedly over the centuries and included the unprovoked invasions known as Ghazwas by Arab Muslims beginning in 636 AD/CE. These invasions aimed to capture and dominate the Dar al-Harb and impose the religion, and in many areas the language and culture, of the Arab Muslims on their captive subjects. Radical Islamists today wish to re-institutionalize the Ghazwas, thereby re-connecting themselves to a nostalgic, "heroic" past. If successful, they will have reconstituted the world's longest ongoing campaign of imperialist aggression.

History's Three Regional Jihads:

In the 7th Century following the establishment of a government under the Caliph or supreme Muslim religious leader in the Arabian Peninsula, Arab Muslim armies conquered Syria, Palestine, and Mesopotamia, and imposed their rule over the indigenous Christian Armenians, Arameans, Assyrians, Syriacs, Chaldeans, and Jews. Coptic Christian Egypt, Nubian Northern Sudan, Berber Cyrenaica (Libya) and Numedia (Algeria) also were then conquered followed by Spain, southern France, and Sicily. The Arab Muslim armies also invaded Persia and Central Asia reaching as far as India. In all of these lands, an Islamic state was established against the will of the native populations and imposed by Arab governors under the Caliph.

A second unprovoked Fatah was launched from the 11th to the 17th century when Turkish Muslim warriors stormed and conquered Christian Armenia, Byzantium, Greece, the Balkans, and parts of eastern and central Europe, up to the gates of Vienna. Meanwhile a third unprovoked Fatah caused the subjugation of Hindu and Buddhist India.

The Fatah was a planned and organized movement to subdue cultures, and destroy them as a prelude to replacing them with a new foreign religious culture. Today, Radical Islamists wish to revive the Fatah on a global scale.

(II) The Adepts of Radical Islamism Subscribe to an Anachronistic and Widely Discredited Version of a Universal, Monotheistic Faith, Islam, that is a Source of Inspiration to Hundreds of Millions of Muslims worldwide.

(A) Radical Islamists believe in a 1400 year-old religious concept that divides the world into two zones: Dar al-Islam: the realm of peace and Dar al-harb: the realm of war. The former is a zone that is ruled by Islamic states which are worthy of full peace, while the latter is ruled by infidels who inhabit a zone of war, susceptible to Islamic subjugation. Radical Islamists promote a religious worldwide confrontation between the two zones that grants legitimacy to imperial conquest, colonialism, slavery, ethnic cleansing, suppression of liberties, forced religious conversion, and Jihad or Holy War.

(B) Radical Islamists also believe in the 1400 year-old concept of Ridda which holds that a natural born or converted Muslim may not convert or revert to another religion. Today, in many countries ruled or influenced by the Radical Islamist version of Koranic Law, there exists a religiously sanctioned death penalty for those who may decide to change their religion.

(III) Radical Islamism Imposes an Inferior Status on All Non-Muslims and the Special Subservient Status of Dhimmi for "the People of the Book" - Jews and Christians.

In the 7th century, the Caliph Umar imposed this Dhimmi status on conquered populations under his rule. Christians, Jews, and others were forced to accept Al-Shurut al-Umariya, or Umar's conditions, a system of restrictions designed to shame and despoil non-Muslim subjects. Dhimmi peoples had to relinquish their land, were forced to pay a special "protection" tax (dhimma) or face death, wear distinctive clothing, and were banned from most government positions.

Today, Radical Islamists seek to re-impose this state-sanctioned discrimination, calling it an effort to "protect" minorities. In reality, such measures are always part of an effort to enforce assimilation, conversion, and to annihilate the identity of others. The example of Afganistan, where the Hindu minority is forced to wear distinctive clothing to mark them as infidels, is among the most well known.

In areas throughout the Islamic world, Radical Islamists use repression and violence against infidel minorities. In Egypt, Radical Islamists persecute the Copts; in Sudan, the Radical Islamist regime massacres and enslaves the Dinkas, both Christian and traditionalist; in Lebanon, Radical Islamists terrorize the Christians; in Nigeria, they butchered Biafran Ibos and oppress the Christians. In Iraq and Syria, alleged secular radical regimes that are governed by Arab nationalist ideologies and penetrated by Jihadic norms suppress native Christian cultures. In Iran, they persecute Christians and Bahais; in Kashmir, they wage a terrorist war against the Hindu minority; in the southern Philippines, they terrorize Catholics and kidnap foreigners; in East Timor, they have endorsed the regime's attempts at ethnic cleansing against Christians; in Indonesia, they routinely assault the native Christians, particularly in the Moluccas.

(IV) Radical Islamists Seek to Establish the Supremacy of their Version of Islam Over all Other Faiths: the "Global Jihad."

Guided by a deviated interpretation of Islam, the Radical Islamists believe that they will rule the world because of their conviction in the superiority of their religion. Their propaganda mirrors such beliefs as in the Middle East, where they call for the takeover of secular governments in Muslim countries, the destruction of Israel, and the elimination of Christians in Lebanon and South Sudan. In Africa, they call for the conversion to Islam of Black Africa. In Russia, they call for the violent secession of Chechnya, and Dagestan. In Pakistan, they promote Jihad to sever the multi-ethnic province of Kashmir from India. In China, they call for the creation of an Islamic state in Xinjiang. In South East Asia, they support the elimination of East Timor, the destruction of Christian and Chinese minorities in Indonesia, the establishment of a Radical Islamist state in the South Philippines. In Europe, they encourage Radical Islamist separatism in Bosnia and Kosovo, and now in Macedonia. In America and Europe, they have taken over the leadership of the growing Muslim communities to radicalize them and pave the way for Radical Islamist political action in the service of a global Jihad. In every instance, their message is carefully tuned to promote the legitimization of Jihad movements by the international community. To accelerate that goal the Radical Islamists of today are planning, and implementing a Jihad to re-establish the universal Caliphate.

(V) Radical Islamists Abuse Human Rights in their Home Countries

Racial Islamists reject political pluralism, democracy, and fundamental human freedoms in their home countries and abroad. Wherever possible, they use existing freedoms to reach power and then physically eliminate or subdue their opposition. Radical Islamists prohibit or have eliminated political freedoms in Afganistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan, and plan on eliminating those freedoms enjoyed in other countries as they come to dominate them.

Similarly, Radical Islamists do not tolerate religious freedom, or regimes that permit religious equality. In Saudi Arabia, state law forbids non-Muslims to practice their faith. In Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, and Egypt, non-Muslims are discriminated against in varying degrees.

Much like Dhimmis, women under Radical Islamist regimes and throughout the Muslim world live as an inferior class of citizens. Such regimes promote gender discrimination against women, theologically, ideologically, socially, politically and economically. From Afghanistan to Morocco, women suffer dearly at different levels and in different contexts. Women, who have unequal legal rights, are abused through systematic social discrimination, psychological oppression. Female genital mutilation (FGM) and honor killings are among the most well-known depravations suffered by women in many countries.

Radical Islamists proclaim the equality of races under Islam, but have established a form of religious racism wherever they expanded. They have developed the concept of the "Umma" - the "religious nation" - from which non-Muslims are excluded as a whole. Hence, religion to Radical Islamists is not just a faith held by some citizens and not others; it is an absolute demarcation, dividing superior from inferior human beings. To Radical Islamists, religion is akin to race in any racist system as it sets up an exclusive, superior category of human beings with rights to dominate the others. Within this system, Arab Radical Islamists advocate an Arab Caliph, the Arabic language as the sacred language, and regard other Muslims, especially those of African origin, as inferior. The Radical Islamists' distaste for Africans is rooted in the Arab Muslim participation in the enslavement of Africans, a practice that dates back to the 7th Century AD/CE. Arab-Islamist raids into Africa since the conquest of Egypt have ravaged Africa, uprooted tens of millions of men, women and children, destroying countless families. It contributed to the European slave trade from Africa to the Americas from the 17th century. The Arab enslavement of Africans over the centuries remains active today in Sudan.

(VI) Radical Islamists Deny Their Crimes Against Humanity

While other cultures, movements and religions have acknowledged and sometimes apologized for past racist practices, the Radical Islamists refuse to admit the historical crimes they, and their predecessors, have perpetrated since the 7th century and refuse to acknowledge that those crimes are still being perpetrated today.

In the areas under their control they write revisionist histories of their actions, denying the identity and history of the nations they have subjugated and burying the evidence of the Jihad that they waged against native peoples. In the West, they fund educational programs aimed at erasing their crimes from history. Radical Islamists are penetrating the public educational systems to impose their view of their victims world with the unwitting assistance of their victims. In this way, they obliterate the violent and racist nature of their predecessors' actions and prepare for their return to absolute power, decreed by their beliefs.

RESOLUTIONS:

For these reasons, the Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights calls upon the World Conference Against Racism to:

1) Request the Organization of the Islamic Conference - acting on behalf of its 57 members - to apologize for past Jihad crimes against humanity, including the brutal invasion and occupation of lands and peoples in the Middle East, North Africa, Europe, and Asia, and the mass enslavement of Africans and others, including Europeans;

2) Condemns all current Jihads, and calls on these Governments to cease violating the rights of ethnic and religious minorities and peoples;

3) Calls on the United Nations to Equate Radical Islamism, Jihad-ism, and Dhimmitude with Racism, Colonialism, and Imperialism;

4) Calls on the United Nations to intervene to protect the rights and lives of religious and ethnic minorities and non-Islamist Muslims in Afganistan, Algeria, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia Sudan, and Syria;

5) Calls on Islamic scholars and intellectuals to reject the concepts of Fatah, Jihad, and Dhimmitude;

6) Calls on Islamic Governments to stop imposing the Shari'a on non-Muslims and guarantee the rights of all enlightened Muslim humanists and intellectuals.

Submitted by: The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights, an umbrella coalition representing various organizations from the following communities: Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, Humanist Muslims, Copts, Assyrians, Syriacs, Southern Sudanese, Maronites, Southern Philippinos, West Africans, Ibos, Slavic Christians, Armenians, Arab Christians, Nubians, secular intellectuals, and women's groups.

The Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights
14000 Gunner's Place, Centerville, VA 20121
703-234-3954 x 7542
http://www.dhimmi.com

CDHR is a registered 501c3 non-profit organization. All donations are tax-deductible.

I notice alot of people here have it in big time for the muselmen. As a christian however I remember when the Israelites were in the desert they were told by God to by pass their arab brethren and not cause any trouble because they also were descendents of Abraham. Its best to leave a dog to its bone. Also, one poster asked what the muselmen had given to mankind in the last thousand years. I'm not sure if it is within the time range but algorithims strike a chord, and that book that burton translated is quite interesting (a wine drunk muselman, who'd a thunk it?) And was Galen a muselman?

Are they reading the same Koran as the radicals? How can BOTH be true followers of Allah and Mohammed? I've read too many verses from the Koran recently to buy into the shrill insistence that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion. OTOH if someone can clarify this for me, I'd be happy to listen.

When you read the Koran, you realized how violent and cruel Mohammed was.

Not being a Church-going Bible reading Christian, I also went back and started reading the Gospels. There isn't anyway that Jesus can be considered violent. In fact, I realized how hard it is to follow Jesus completely because he is so peaceful. Matthew says he admonished us to "Love Thy Enemy." The other gospels have "Love thy Neighbor as thy Self".

Mohammed tells his followers to kill whenever someone breaks his law, for instance if one becomes a non-believer, a woman commits adultery, etc.

I'm perfectly willing to "leave a dog to it's bone," as you put it. But when a dog becomes rabid, and starts attacking innocent passers-by it needs to be "put down."

What do you do to the innocent dogs bitten who become rabid themselves? Is islam to become the 'great satan' of America, or will its citizens put away such trivilizations? By all means, evil must be rooted out, but there is no point battling evil if we must let loose the evil which resides in ourselves to combat the evil hearts of others.

Religious fanaticism in any manifestationnis evil.

As is atheist, agnostic, and libertarian fanaticism. Don't be so exclusive. Fanatic athiests have murdered more people in the past 100 years than religious fanatics killed in the previous 20 centuries combined.

By all means, evil must be rooted out, but there is no point battling evil if we must let loose the evil which resides in ourselves to combat the evil hearts of others.

Find out about pop zen today! It's the latest substitute for critical thinking.

And what do these buffoons say when asked about Osama's "Fatwa" that says Americans civilians should be killed? They don't denounce that one, you never hear them denouncing that. They merely denounce accusations? And they denounce the accusations more forcefully than they denounce the attack.

The accusation I heard, was that of Osama Bin Laden. Bush said specifically it is not about Arabs, it is not about Islam.

Are the idiots who demand "evidence" as stupid as they sound, or are they merely feigning stupidity? Right, here's the evidence, so all can see who we've found out about so far!!!

I knew that America was hated, but the degree to which it is hated is plainly evident by those who focus on anything but the tragedy that just happened, what kind of people are they???

We lose 6,000+ civilians and they say, "you know, something bad just happened, and you know what it is, it's that we feel accused" Well, no, if they feel accused they can just plain shut up about it for a few months, some of our people feel murdered.

Sadly, these sound like the leftists in our country: "something bad just happened, you know what it is? It's that we think the US might be about to do some terrible thing" - huh? a terrible thing just happened why is it all leftists can see is some hypothetical thing, they are busy imagining things about the future, denying the present that stares them in the face.

This is a time when all decent people should denounce the attacks and realize that any anti-Arab backlash is the work of Osama, his actions have for the masses represented Arabs poorly: it's an inevitable stereotype even though it's not true. Hopefully some Arabs will help bring him to justice, and we will have some better coverage in the near future, for now all we can do is educate and law enforce to the best of our abilities, and certainly that is being done by the media and our leaders.

It is not our fault that the majority of news about Arabs recently has been that they blew up this or that: sorry, we really didn't hope for such a situation!!!

Americans must promote and have promoted justice, not prejudice: Bush has visited Mosques, he's bent over backwards to educate Americans that it is not Arabs, it is some specific people and some specific organizations.

Anyone intent on ignoring what happened in New York (such as these "Arab ministers" and our own leftists) must help in bringing Osama to justice, then they'll have enough credibility that non-events like the fact they feel "attacked" may become newsworthy.

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Christianity teaches some beautiful things. It teaches love and so many other wonderful messages.

Islam teaches hate and violence.

They both cannot be true. Muhammad didn't believe that Jesus was the son of God. Therefore, I consider Muhammad to be wrong. I believe that Islam is a religion founded by a false prophet.

I couldn't imagine that God put us here to hate each other or wanted us to commit acts of violence.

Islam just doesn't add up. The Iraqis stole TVs and gold, raped women and girls, and murdered all in the name of what they proclaimed to be a jihad (Holy War).

"The hypocrisy and blindness of these people is nothing short of astounding."

It's not hypocrisy and blindness, it's the BIG LIE. They're hoping that if they repeat it often enough that people will believe it. And, some do-- clearly many in the Arab world do. And, much of the U.S. press as well. Our real problem here is that there really aren't any "moderate" Arab states, and all of those guys will cut our throats if we give them half a chance.

Find out about pop hate today! The new and improved Immanuel Goldstein. Time for hate hour to work out those frustrations and ignore the real problems. Yes critical thinking is plus plus good.

What do you do to the innocent dogs bitten who become rabid themselves? Is islam to become the 'great satan' of America, or will its citizens put away such trivilizations? By all means, evil must be rooted out, but there is no point battling evil if we must let loose the evil which resides in ourselves to combat the evil hearts of others.

I quite agree that we must not let our outrage as individuals turn our hearts to evil doing. However, as a nation if we do not strike fear into our enemies hearts, they will continue these atrocities, until they provoke an unthinking and outrageous response on our part. Is Islam our enemy? From the voices of many Islamic religious leaders overseas, THEY seem to think so. If even only 10% of Muslims, (and I personally think the percentage is much higher) consider themselves to be radical Islamics, we're talking at least 100 million people who seek our destruction. If they only represented a tiny minority in Muslim countries, why are the governments of those countries so afraid of them?

I have a deep and abiding fear that the time will soon be past when America can be salvaged from its present course of destruction. The living constitution, the expanding government, the expanding dependency of other nations to be under America's umbrella or under its thumb. Is this the new America? If freedom falls from american shores the darkness will spread until it engulfs the whole world, because the hope of a natural society will be engulfed by the artifical society.

What I want to know is how did it go so horribly wrong, and is there anyway America can extricate herself from it before it's to late?

Oliver Goldsmith wrote, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Lies are like marbles. They are nice and round and you can roll them backwards and forth, here and there. Truths on the other hand are like cubes. They tend to stay in one place and are not easily moved. So you smooth the corners a bit to make them roll a little bit easier. Then a while later you say what the hey and smooth them alittle bit more, until in the end you can't distingush the truths from the lies."

But thank you you have given me something to think about, and ponder it I shall.

Wow, an arabic name, and you've been around here since September 15th, 2001!

Guess WHOSE log is in your eye, pal?

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