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1 Posted on 10/01/2001 14:58:07 PDT by NYS_Eric
2 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:04:46 PDT by Republic of Texas
3 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:06:56 PDT by independentmind
4 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:11:12 PDT by paul51
And the men he wants to prove himself to are the Saudis.
Interesting difference in approach.
5 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:11:32 PDT by bvw
Other than for oil, and the strategic position of Suez and the Horn of Africa there is absolutely no reason to have anything to do with any of the Moselm states of the Middle East and Southewest Asia. Let 'em stew in their own pig fat.
6 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:18:32 PDT by CatoRenasci
8 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:28:08 PDT by patent
9 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:31:57 PDT by independentmind
10 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:34:57 PDT by First_Salute
11 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:35:39 PDT by First_Salute
LOLOL_____Steven Schwartz is a pathetic liar.
12 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:37:19 PDT by Samaritan
13 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:37:58 PDT by CatoRenasci
14 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:41:09 PDT by Samaritan
15 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:48:46 PDT by rebdov
Then I don't think they'll mind when the Dome of the Rock, Mecca and Medina are leveled.
Nuke em and take the oil.
16 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:49:25 PDT by Centurion2000
17 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:51:00 PDT by rebdov
18 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:52:46 PDT by CatoRenasci
19 Posted on 10/01/2001 15:55:36 PDT by rebdov
Why are most Americans so abysmally ignorant of history generally, even our own? Our lack of an historical consciousness, in contrast to our otherwise less than admirable European cousins, is at the root of many of the stupidities of American politics and policy. Historians and intellectuals have been complaining about his at least since the turn of the 20th century, and it's only gotten worse. I sure don't understand it, having been virtually nursed on both American and European history through the deeds of forebears, but I've come to accept that it exists. Wish I had a better answer.
20 Posted on 10/01/2001 16:01:22 PDT by CatoRenasci
If what you say is true, then it seems the West is guilty of stupidity. Why did we ever think that our market institutions would be viable in foreign cultures?
23 Posted on 10/01/2001 16:55:09 PDT by independentmind
Dunno. Naiivte?
24 Posted on 10/01/2001 17:10:22 PDT by CatoRenasci
The companies probably thought Uncle Sam would come to the rescue if the locals started acting erratic. Even if they didn't, you only have to think our market institutions might be viable in foreign cultures, and that there's a potentially large payoff, and people will try it. Some usually do in any high-risk, high-profit investment.
25 Posted on 10/01/2001 18:22:48 PDT by A.J.Armitage
26 Posted on 10/01/2001 18:47:45 PDT by independentmind
If you could really assess risks before the event, they wouldn't be risks. :-) People spend money on the lottery, which has almost no chance of paying off and amounts to a donation to the government.
This is the fundamental flaw of "free-traders"; market institutions are products of particular cultures. They may, or may not, transfer well to cultures which do not share our values.
You have a point there.
27 Posted on 10/01/2001 19:41:25 PDT by A.J.Armitage
Keep in mind, when you hit "post reply", a little chime goes off at FBI HQ and a few screens light up, with your address on them.
28 Posted on 10/01/2001 20:43:56 PDT by Travis McGee
29 Posted on 10/01/2001 20:46:25 PDT by Travis McGee
30 Posted on 10/01/2001 20:47:23 PDT by Travis McGee
31 Posted on 10/01/2001 21:13:23 PDT by MHGinTN
32 Posted on 10/01/2001 21:36:38 PDT by AGAviator
Keep in mind, the 9-11 terrorists were not 19 year old provincials.
33 Posted on 10/01/2001 21:42:12 PDT by Travis McGee
34 Posted on 10/01/2001 21:52:49 PDT by Rockitz
I'm sure you've seen in my other Threads that I complain of an agenda to "colonize" Muslim America -- that's the Saudi Wahabbis, with their Salafiyyah movement. Ideologically, they're the inheritors of the Khawarij, the first group to secede from the muslim community claiming a "correct" understanding of Islam against a decision by the fourth successor, 'Ali. Today known as the Ibadi, resident in Oman and minorities in other places, they do not regard "deviants" -- that is, the entirety of Sunni and Shi'ah muslims who did not disagree with 'Ali -- as muslim. Radical Wahhabis have the identical approach to difference of understanding.
In America, they have a slick-cover monthly magazine and are actively recruiting among American muslims, but not making a great deal of headway. Most American muslims recognize them as a Saudi effort to define Islam for Americans, and we don't take to that very well. It is the backlash against American muslims, beyond the influence of the parties of the collapsed millennial muslim world, that has been and continues to be the first aim of the terrorists.
was-salaam,
ankaboot
--
Rejoice, muslims, in martyrdom without fighting,
a Mercy for us. Be like the better son of Adam.
35 Posted on 10/01/2001 22:26:18 PDT by ankaboot
36 Posted on 10/01/2001 22:50:24 PDT by Travis McGee
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