Leading Libertarian Forum Censors Expose of Zionazi Web Cabal

[From a post to Liberty Forum:]

Every discussion forum on the Web is monitored by Israeli loyalists. This is an organized and, where necessary, supported effort that is perfectly reasonable given the situation of Jews and Israel in the world not only today, but throughout history. Just as the ADL and the JDL and other organizations are properly watchful for those inimical for whatever reason to the well-being of Jews, and are very good at what they do, so we have among us at Liberty Forum not only those who advocate Israel's interests but those who simply watch for dangers. I support this, I have never not supported it, and firmly advocate that any discrete and identifiable grouping on whatever basis of association should do likewise.

What people do with what they learn is another question altogether, the world is full of danger for everybody and everybody should stay on watch for it. There is nothing "tinfoil hat" about it, ask any mother whether she feels right in ignoring the possibility of dangers to her babies. And if she has to sneak around and eavesdrop when her daughter is talking on the phone to the guy next door who looks to everybody else like a saint, then more power to her. I pretty much ignore the possibility of dangers to myself, but only because I've physically watched assassination attempts collapse literally on my doorstep, and every attack on me in the last thirty-five years fail ludicrously and quite often backfire. But I still look around when I step outside, just out of habit. It's a good habit.

I have a cordial relationship with Leon Gralnik, who fields the Meshuryan team at Microsoft Networks in their discussion groups related to Middle East issues ~ right out in the open, "Meshuryan" is in his signature and it has the same definition in Hebrew and in Arabic, it's hasbara and agitprop. Leon is an expert, and he's surrounded by extremely competent people. Whenever a discussion begins concerning Israeli atrocities in Palestine, or corruption of American foreign policy in favor of Israeli state terrorism in Palestine or financing or arming it, he and his crew can bring such a flood of obscure details, disinformation reports that opponents are challenged to "disprove" with their own research, and complete and total confusion to the discussion, that they derail just about everything that might disclose something about Israeli state terrorism. They're very good, and they're there twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, with direct lines to the moderators (one of them is a moderator), to protect Israel's image from the realities unknown to the American people.

I had a long conversation there with a grandmother working in the GOI Information offices in Tel Aviv (i.e., Mossad). I have a friendly correspondence with the webmaster head of the Jewish Defense Organization, who links to my website and to a newspaper article about me that was linked here at Liberty Forum (I think by Down_South) and has posted some of what I have written to him on their website.

One of my former neighbors, whose boys were running buddies with my sons, was a veteran of the Jewish Defense League, and we had pleasant conversations. I support the Jewish organizations that attempt to arm every Jew in America. I'm very big on self-sufficiency when it comes to being able to resist attack and tyranny, for everybody and especially for those who realize the importance of that. And I have a great respect for people who can come together to organize their advocacy in a public discussion forum, and Liberty Forum's Israeli loyalists certainly include some very capable individuals. We even talk to each other privately because each respects the other's right to believe according to his own lights. We prefer not to meet alone in dark alleys, but I would no more harm a faithful Jew treacherously than I would lay a hand on a muslim. And I think my experience supports the belief that my "enemies" are also faithful to their own beliefs.

We are arrayed in the marketplace of ideas, each advocating a fervently-held vision of humanity. God Alone will decide what comes of it, "we" are the faithful of all persuasions, and we are all vigilant against the enemies of God and the destroyers of humanity.

One of the distinguishing characteristics of Liberty Forum, however, is that such vigilance against dangers to the forum itself is prohibited or, at best, reserved exclusively to [site owner] John Deere himself as and when he feels a need to examine something brought to his attention. Unlike all other discussion forums there is no "nanny brigade" in place at Liberty Forum to arrest discussion that could prove contentious, unproductive, disruptive, or ~ gasp! ~ so runaway popular on the Web that like this Thread, it draws in nearly six thousand page views in four days and floods mailboxes with personal mail every which way from Sunday, that for example portrays Israeli partisan activity ~ the "what they do with it" part ~ in a true light.

Which is the source of much unruly contention ~ like my signature says:

Divert, distort, denigrate, disrupt or destroy any discussion of the corruption of American liberty by the organized lobby of a foreign power

And Israel's loyalists are superb at creating a ruckus when their ox is gored, and this Thread is a good example.

But Liberty Forum is the ONLY place that "allows as free discussion of politics as you will find" here. It is unique in this respect and this is what makes it attractive to the members and to the rest of the people on the Web, including more and more teams of Israeli loyalists who are aghast that people can talk about Israeli machinations here the way we do and get away with it.

So let's not lose sight of the diamond. At Liberty Forum, members can do what cannot be done anywhere else on the Web with a general membership ~ we can turn a certain sacred cow into hamburger and not have the discussion shut down and the advocates banished.

Until now, that is.

Plan Daisy

And then the fun began ...

[Continuing from the above post to Liberty Forum:]