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Subject Instrusions into your offline life [ Post 1350830 ]
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:30 AM



  Category: Private  Topic: Galt's Gulch
  Synopsis: opinion canvassing
  Source: Liberty Forum
  Published: March 8, 2004  Author: tc
  For Education and Discussion Only.  Not for Commercial Use.


Libertarians,

How do you feel about the fact that at least two of our fellow posters have in the past engaged and are currently engaging themselves in affecting the offline lives of other LF posters to their detriment by using LF and what is said here?

canvassing opinion,

tc

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350836, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:31 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350839, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:32 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350840, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:33 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350842, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:33 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350845, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:34 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350851, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:35 AM



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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350862, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by OWK (Son of Liberty)
Posted on03/08/04 11:39 AM



Acquiring the ID of online persona wishing to remain anonymous, and subsequently using that information to harrass, stalk, or otherwise intrude into the real life of LF posters, should result in the banishment of the offending parties.

IMHO.

Same old bullshit.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350863, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Carbon (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 11:39 AM



Personally, what goes on here should stay here. It's really no one's business what people do outside of this forum, and frankly, I think if anyone's caught fuckin' around with the personal lives of people who use this board, their account and IP should be banned immediately, and permanently.

I'm not one for banning people for what they say here, or even if they want to fuck with the system... that can be handled without banning. But outside of this/that, screwin' with people's personal lives is off-limits, and these dick-heads who are screwin' around should knock it off post-haste.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: OWK  |  Post 1350864, reply to 1350862 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by thoughtcriminal (well of great wisdom)
Posted on03/08/04 11:40 AM



Flag to: OWK, carbon

Thank you gentlemen, I agree.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350870, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Pete (freedom fighter)
Posted on03/08/04 11:42 AM



Good use of the gulch.

I think it is quite artificial to separate "your two lives" as they are really one in the same. And it seems that said poster actually knew the other poster or at least one of them in "real life" prior to LF membership (if I remember the incident correctly).

I don't see this as a problem of breaching some sort of online offline barrier, but certainly as generally despicable behavior. It seems certain posters have too much time on their hands, and a bizarre desire to snoop.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350874, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Zviadist (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 11:50 AM



Details?


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: Pete  |  Post 1350881, reply to 1350870 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by OWK (Son of Liberty)
Posted on03/08/04 11:52 AM



I don't see this as a problem of breaching some sort of online offline barrier, but certainly as generally despicable behavior.

When you're calling people's school, or calling their parents and trying to fuck up their lives because you don't like what they've said on the internet, you've crossed the line and then some.

I say throw the bum out.

Shoulda been done long ago.

And if not, then some kind of public censure.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350882, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Polichinello (freedom fighter)
Posted on03/08/04 11:52 AM



They're both scum of the earth and should be banned.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350883, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 1)
Posted by Ore_Aliaii (insurgent)
Posted on03/08/04 11:53 AM



It's sickening.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: Carbon  |  Post 1350903, reply to 1350863 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by SteamshipTime (freedom fighter)
Posted on03/08/04 12:00 PM



Assuming the allegations are true, permanent banishment. Opinions were posted on this forum in the expectation that what goes on here stays here. The information was used against that poster w/o that person's consent.

The cancer needs to be excised; we are not dealing with friends of liberty here.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: OWK  |  Post 1350905, reply to 1350881 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Pete (freedom fighter)
Posted on03/08/04 12:00 PM



When you're calling people's school, or calling their parents and trying to fuck up their lives because you don't like what they've said on the internet, you've crossed the line and then some.

I was not saying that a line was not crossed, but rather explaing what line was crossed.

I say throw the bum out.

Banning IPs can only do so much.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350906, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Jack_Barbara (freedom fighter)
Posted on03/08/04 12:01 PM



Quote:
at least two of our fellow posters have in the past engaged and are currently engaging themselves in affecting the offline lives of other LF posters to their detriment
If there is to be some action, what would the level of evidence be for proving that this has indeed happened?

The presentation of PMs alone is certainly not enough.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: SteamshipTime  |  Post 1350910, reply to 1350903 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by OWK (Son of Liberty)
Posted on03/08/04 12:01 PM




The cancer needs to be excised; we are not dealing with friends of liberty here.


I agree whole-heartedly.

And if left to fester, it will only grow worse.

They've already been emboldened by inaction.




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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: OWK  |  Post 1350911, reply to 1350881 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Carbon (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 12:02 PM



Flag to: Polichinello

Quote:
I say throw the bum out.

Shoulda been done long ago.

And if not, then some kind of public censure.



Fuck censure.

What the asshole(s) did are egregious acts (if the PM's are correct), and they don't deserve membership in any community.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: Pete  |  Post 1350913, reply to 1350905 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Carbon (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 12:02 PM



> Banning IPs can only do so much.

Blanket party?

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: Jack_Barbara  |  Post 1350917, reply to 1350906 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by OWK (Son of Liberty)
Posted on03/08/04 12:04 PM



If there is to be some action, what would the level of evidence be for proving that this has indeed happened?

I would settle for an admission of guilt on the part of the principles, or direct evidence that they are attempting to conceal their actions.

Frankly.. I think they'd fess up if asked, and tell you there was nothing wrong with what they did.


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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: SteamshipTime  |  Post 1350919, reply to 1350903 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Carbon (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 12:04 PM



>... we are not dealing with friends of liberty here.

Concerning the two mentioned in the PM's, nor have they ever been.

Burn 'em.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: OWK  |  Post 1350925, reply to 1350917 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by Carbon (agent provocateur)
Posted on03/08/04 12:05 PM



> Frankly.. I think they'd fess up if asked, and tell you there was nothing wrong
> with what they did.


Lol... like that never happened before.

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Subject Re: Instrusions into your offline life  [ To: thoughtcriminal  |  Post 1350934, reply to 1350830 ] (Score: 2)
Posted by OWK (Son of Liberty)
Posted on03/08/04 12:09 PM



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Your opinion?


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