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==== I want to see the libertarian reaction to such blatant disregard for people's privacy.

What about the regard FOR a parent's friend's opinion regarding the actions of the child he may also know personally? Is the owner of a bar obligated to protect some underage drinker from the sanction of his parents as informed by friends of the family?

=== If libertarians can't defend the privacy of others, then libertarianism is a crock of shit.

Since when are libertarians -- as a group, no less -- obligated to do anything for anyone?

=== I know more than one personal life that could be ruined by revelation of the opinions, beliefs and ideas expressed on these forums.

Only men without chests go beating them in the dark where no one of Import can hear.

=== I think it is quite artificial to separate "your two lives" as they are really one in the same.

Hear hear, Pete.

Just as I'd expect to weather what repercussions come from standing by my principles in "real life," I've weathered those that came as a result of my "cyber life" as well. I am one and the same person both places.

Though Askel's a bit more outspoken as as rule ...

=== Opinions were posted on this forum in the expectation that what goes on here stays here.

Really? I thought one of the purposes of LF was to disseminate as widely as possible the opinions posted here.

=== They've already been emboldened by inaction.

I suspect they've been emboldened by Reaction. If those they've targeted are taking a hike: fait accompli. They've won.

=== This isn't about speech, it's about taking things too far in real life.

This is real life. Barring the ability to actually get together or spend more time "evangelizing" the principles we tout here among our family, friends, co-workers and perfect strangers (as we are to each other, in truth) ... this is the most Real conduit you've got for sparking souls and consciences into action.

Why should the "real" fight be saved for the "real" world where most of us are too busy, too tolerant or too disgusted and apathetic to voice ourselves with the passion we do here?

=== They should be cast into the external darkness.

There's more where they came from. Always will be.

=== The kid is scared shitless.

Perhaps he'll think twice, then, before showing up and going full bore and an often strictly personal fashion as he -- in true "kid" fashion shoots off more mouth than he's able or willing to back up.

=== Future versions of the site may provide me and like minded individuals the ability to make this stick in a very tangible and rights preserving way. Shunning requires the ability to withdraw the value of participation and this site is set up in such a way that this will never happen.

From what I can tell, none here are particularly well-positioned to debit posters into oblivion by ignoring them. (The admirable efforts of some where I'm concerned notwithstanding.) I'm also nonplussed at the way those so enamoured of Choice and spontenaity in human relations (much less the random nature of Creation itself) are so hung up on designing the Perfect System to control the population.

=== But if they prove true, you honestly don't see any reason for LF to act?

How can LF act if 100% of LF is not in perfect agreement with the action? Isn't this the litmus test of any community's ability to pass a law in ancapistan?

Annalex ... as one who's paid the price of being indiscreet with my personal information -- having a stalker from Massachusetts not only hound me for a couple years but actually show up on my porch in New Orleans, I say with all due experience gained the hard way: To each his own responsibility for protecting his own privacy. It's not LF's or the tribe's job.

=== If one member of this forum uses LF to gain information, which he subsequently uses to harrass, intimidate, or maliciously meddle in the real life of another.. should the forum act against them?

It was my understanding that BB was warned against using LF property to harass me. If the harassment's not taking place on the site -- as it was in my case -- what business is it of the forum's? I never asked LF to ban him (or ban his second and I think still working account) but will admit that once Deere made the decision BB was abusing his privileges and it became a bannable offense to continue in light of the warning, I was relieved as hell to have this particular conduit of actual abuse and harassment closed.