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WRS and LF
Understanding how WRS was forced to leave LF
In short: Mr_Nuke_Buzzcut accused Kudzu of promoting pedophilia. Kudzu told him he had the facts wrong. WindRiverShoshoni came to her defense and said that it was libel and that it could actionable. Then a cabal at the private forum Galt's Gulch (led by Thoughtcriminal and OWK), demanded John Deere remove WRS, stating that WRS had already caused enough trouble. The trouble makers added that WRS' "spying" is also intolerable.
TC, along with his followers Weikel, Jack_Barbara, Earth_AD, SamSpade, SteamshipTime, Gustav_Vasa, and Edana, protested "either WRS goes or we go." All of them kept their word — so far. Supplanter also threatened to leave but chickened out.!
Natibrau, who said she was leaving and even took a six-day vacation on March 10, decided to stick around. Polichinello, who took a three-day vacation on March 12, is also back.
JD probably ignored their threats, but did suspend WRS. The only way WRS could return now is if he accepts JD's "terms":
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Nuke and a few others left of their own accord, without force, fraud or misrepresentation. One might almost be proud of them. WRS on the other hand, chose to stick with principle and was subsequently crucified for it. [Post 1369114] Mugwort [to LL]: I agree; that's what bothered me on this "libertarian" forum. When JD said he had not decided to ban WRS and others announced they were leaving, I thought, "Well, that's self-determination — good for them. And good for JD not getting hornswoggled into adopting coercive tactics when it's not at all apparent that they're called for." [Post 1369144] Givemeliberty (a Gulch member): I certainly agree that it was inappropriate that it was posted at Galt's Gulch. It should have been posted on the main forum from the beginning rather than convene a lynch mob in secret. Of course, TC and those that posted on it had an expection of privacy. That was the intent and purpose of putting it at the Gulch. That way they could carry on their little lynching without interference from those that might not agree nor would it allow those accused to defend themselves.
TC and several others wanted WRS banned and he/they used the Gulch to accomplish their purpose. No one that might have disagreed with them were invited, the accused were not allowed a defense, and no real evidence was presented for a number of the accusations. That stinks to high heaven and beyond.
I suspect the only reason I was flagged is because I had not expressed an opinion in regards to WRS, et al. and was maybe assumed to be an ally of TC and the gang. [Quoted by Mugwort in post 1368985] JohnGalt (a Gulch member): Gulch was a place to discuss "getting off the grid" issues, the apolitical side of libertarianism. The ideas being discussed had potential intellectual property value and logically should be shielded from general consumption of anon viewers.
Second, Galt's Gulch was a way for the citizens (defined in the classical sense) to speak freely about the direction of the forum. [Post 1369631] MadameAxe (a Gulch member): The Gulch is a private topic. Therefore, reposting posts that were made there on the public forum, without the permission of those who made the posts, is effectively equivalent to posting private messages without permission. [Post 1369641] JRadcliffe (a Gulch member): [The Gulch] is a forum for hard core Libertarians. [Post 1369711] OWK (a Gulch member): Galt's Gulch was intended originally as a place for Liberty-Minded folk who were considering alternatives to living in the US, to discuss options privately... The only time it was ever utilized for anything other than these purposes, was when TC introduced the Zaphod controversy there. [Post 1370583]
In reply to Jack Barbara's comment here,
In a post here, Natibrau states:
Your friend,
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